ASE on eBay.. why the premium?

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Jsquared83, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. Jsquared83

    Jsquared83 New Member

    Been keeping my eye on "deals" and it seems like ASE sell in the $34-$35 range incl shipping whether spot is 30 or 27.50. Is it just uneducated buyers or do they know something we dont..
     
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  3. Pilkenton

    Pilkenton almost uncirculated

    My ASEs as well as my other bullion coins always sell for more.
     
  4. 65GT350

    65GT350 Member

    I believe the buyers make the market and they probably want the ASE now and not risk the price of silver going up again. Are there cheaper places to buy? Yes, but if you look at AMPEX the cost of a single ASE is $31.75 plus $12.95 in shipping so the guy paying $35 is still paying less then a large online store.


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  5. steven21020

    steven21020 New Member

    Funny you should say that, but I monitor Ebay in Italy, France, UK and Germany. (Also Switzerland but most coin sellers in Ebay there are from Germany).

    The days for bargains have passed. The gold/silver frenzy on Ebay is such that the prices are well above what I pay in the commercial sites or in our local shop.

    There are silver Kookaburras and Chinese Pandas being advertised on Ebay at twice the going rate!

    Now in the UK, Tesco (the largest supermarket) have started offering cash for gold coins.

    The world is going mad! :eek:

    Steve
     
  6. sgiorgis

    sgiorgis Student of Numismatics

    Now in the UK, Tesco (the largest supermarket) have started offering cash for gold coins.

    Holy Cow! That is not very comforting! :(
    Steve
     
  7. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    I agree. That's some sort of a smoke signal .
     
  8. Jsquared83

    Jsquared83 New Member

    At what point will you start seeing some easing in ASE prices on the bay? $25 spot? $24? Surely these arent going to maintain $7-8 over spot..
     
  9. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    Putting things in a little perspective here:
    Over the past 40 years, the UK has demonetized all its pre-decimal coinage, plus the New 5, 10, and 50 pence coins, plus the pound note. On top of that, pound coins (which replaced the pound notes) are apparently very susceptible to counterfeiting. That's not a very good way to instill confidence in a fiat currency.
     
  10. 9guns

    9guns Junior Member


    I added some this weekend and price shopped the big 3 online dealers with the credit card/shipping fee's vs' ebay with a 6% rebate. i ended up buying on ebay, a couple rolls of 2011 eagles for $31.30 a pop.
     
  11. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    Another way to look at it is that the spot price is a paper price, not a real physical price. Silver is also in backwardation on the futures markets. So you can expect to pay more for physical silver than paper silver. [Yes I know you can take delivery of silver from Comex if you get the approval in advance, but the vast majority of contracts are rolled over.]
     
  12. fatima

    fatima Junior Member

    This makes no sense. A comex contract is an agreement to buy physical silver at a set price on a certain date. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact that contracts get rolled is irrelevant to this point.
     
  13. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    On the contrary, the fact that only a small percentage of contracts result in delivery is key. The vast majority of players are speculators with no intention of delivering or taking delivery of silver. They are also not hedging physical holdings. The result is a price that is somewhat disconnected from the physical market because it is the paper-pushers and not the physical holders/users who end up setting the price. They become the price makers and the folks involved in the physical metal become the price takers instead of the other way around.
     
  14. fatima

    fatima Junior Member

    You are speaking gibberish. You said that paying for physical silver is more expensive than paper silver. A comex contract is neither. Paper silver is when you buy into something such as a silver ETF or at one time something as simple as a silver certificate. In contrast, a comex contract is an agreement to purchase silver in the future at a certain price. Until that contract is settled, you don't own any silver. (paper or physical)
     
  15. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

  16. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Funny story - if a dealer forgets to trade the contract, they're on the hook for delivery:
    http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Special-Delivery.aspx
     
  17. quartertapper

    quartertapper Numismatist

    I talked to a local dealer last week, and the way it sounds the 2011s will probably be selling in this range unless silver takes a huge dive.
     
  18. Jsquared83

    Jsquared83 New Member

    at first 2011s were selling for $38-40! They're still going for $35+.. even buying a handful with $8.95 shipping through provident is cheaper.. I guess thats an uneducated buyer for ya..
     
  19. swagge1

    swagge1 Junior Member

    It would be awesome if Provident had another free shipping coupon like the one they had in Coinworld a few months back.
     
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