As We're Getting Older, The Same Thing Is Happening to Other Old Coots!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by fretboard, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    My point is, there's some incredible medals, tokens and coins being offered for sale that have never been offered until now! :joyful: I can't share these as I don't want to shoot myself in the foot by creating competition for myself! ;) All I'm saying is take a look at feebay as there's some really great buys coming along! :D
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  3. cpm9ball

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    I stopped buying coins & medals about 10 years ago, but I still enjoy looking at nice medals. I'd love to see some of those that interest you if you want a second opinion on any 19th century French and the Low Countries medals. You can shoot me a PM if you want. I'm in no position to buy anything any more. ~ Chris
  4. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    No Thx, compared to the stuff you collect I'm a complete novice! :phantom: It'd be a waste of your time as you're like King of the Mountain! :D I've seen some of your incredible holdings!! ;)
  5. Paul M.

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    We all have to start somewhere. The offer stands any time you want help. ~ Chris
  7. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

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  8. Paul M.

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    Yeah, you don’t see a clean shaven Lincoln very often, do you?
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  9. -jeffB

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  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Not after his first presidential race. Before that images of him were always clean shaven.
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  11. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    No kidding. I'm not a medal guy, but that one is amazing. What a terrific piece of history.
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  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Same here. I mean, we all speculate about old circulating coins, who might have once held or spent them, and for what -- and then something like this comes along and shoves your face in it.
  13. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is an example of that obverse when it was used for the 1860 presidential campaign. It's interesting that the die sinkers name, Henning, is partially scraped off of this later piece, which was first issued in 1870.

    AL 1860 8 O.jpg AL 1860 8 R.jpg

    Yes the easiest way to tell the difference between an 1860 and an 1864 Lincoln campaign item is to look for the beard.


    A ferrotype from 1864.

    AL 1864-94 O.jpg

    There is only 1860 Lincoln item that is classified. as such which showed him with a beard. That piece was issued after the firing on Fort Sumter. And yes, this one is hard to find.

    AL 1860 31 O.jpg AL 1860 31 R.jpg
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  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    And Sumter was fired upon in 1861 after his 1860 campaign and after his inaugural.

    On the 1870 medal do we know that this was the actual medal given to him? Or could it be a white metal souvenir medal made for the event? Usually actual presentation medals are not made of cheap white metal.
  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I agree. This could not have been the piece that they gave to the first Black voter. If it was, it was a slap in the face. White metal tokens are cheap things that were most often used for polical campaigns. They were intended to be used for a few months and then forgotten. They were not made to last because they are easily damaged and reactive to the elements.
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