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<p>[QUOTE="Pellinore, post: 4596526, member: 74834"]In <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-new-area-arab-byzantine-coins.362480/#post-4595062" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-new-area-arab-byzantine-coins.362480/#post-4595062">another thread</a>, [USER=15481]@svessien[/USER] mentioned the difficulty of discerning between two types if you don't know Arabic. He says:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If you are interested in Artuqid coins, that is, the large pictorial bronzes of the 12th-13th century in Eastern Anatolia and Northern Iraq, here's the book you should acquire: <i>Turkoman Figural Bronze Coins and their Iconography</i> by William F. Spengler and Wayne G. Sayles, vol. I: The Artuqids (1992). You can find it for about $60-80 (I saw one without dust jacket for $35). Coins from this catalog are marked SS or S/S followed by the type number. </p><p>Album 1830.4 is SS 40. You may find it on Zeno (just use 'Mardin' and '1830' as search terms). </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1138233[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Album 1830.6 is SS 42. I didn't see this on Zeno. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1138234[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>You see, the difference is clear. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have a few of these, this type of coin often is quite expressive. I'm sure most of you know people that look like this man: </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1138235[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>AE dirham Artuqids of Mardin, 620 AH = 1223 AD. Nasir al-Din Artuq Arslan (597-637h/1201-1239 AD). Obv.: Roman-style, bare head right; name and titles of Artuq Arslan around. Rev.: Names of Abbasid Caliph al-Nasir and Ayyubid overlord al-Kamil Muhammad in five lines; mint and AH date in margins. 26 mm, 13.92 gr. Whelan Type VI; S&S Type 43; Album 1830.7. </p><p><br /></p><p>In the book by Spengler and Sayles you always find theories about the reasons of the figures, quite interesting. In the case of this coin, they think it might go back to a Roman coin of the emperor Tiberius.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm sure many of you have nice Artuqids, so... post them, please![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Pellinore, post: 4596526, member: 74834"]In [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-new-area-arab-byzantine-coins.362480/#post-4595062']another thread[/URL], [USER=15481]@svessien[/USER] mentioned the difficulty of discerning between two types if you don't know Arabic. He says: If you are interested in Artuqid coins, that is, the large pictorial bronzes of the 12th-13th century in Eastern Anatolia and Northern Iraq, here's the book you should acquire: [I]Turkoman Figural Bronze Coins and their Iconography[/I] by William F. Spengler and Wayne G. Sayles, vol. I: The Artuqids (1992). You can find it for about $60-80 (I saw one without dust jacket for $35). Coins from this catalog are marked SS or S/S followed by the type number. Album 1830.4 is SS 40. You may find it on Zeno (just use 'Mardin' and '1830' as search terms). [ATTACH=full]1138233[/ATTACH] Album 1830.6 is SS 42. I didn't see this on Zeno. [ATTACH=full]1138234[/ATTACH] You see, the difference is clear. I have a few of these, this type of coin often is quite expressive. I'm sure most of you know people that look like this man: [ATTACH=full]1138235[/ATTACH] AE dirham Artuqids of Mardin, 620 AH = 1223 AD. Nasir al-Din Artuq Arslan (597-637h/1201-1239 AD). Obv.: Roman-style, bare head right; name and titles of Artuq Arslan around. Rev.: Names of Abbasid Caliph al-Nasir and Ayyubid overlord al-Kamil Muhammad in five lines; mint and AH date in margins. 26 mm, 13.92 gr. Whelan Type VI; S&S Type 43; Album 1830.7. In the book by Spengler and Sayles you always find theories about the reasons of the figures, quite interesting. In the case of this coin, they think it might go back to a Roman coin of the emperor Tiberius. I'm sure many of you have nice Artuqids, so... post them, please![/QUOTE]
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