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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24738460, member: 26430"]Wow, some cool coins just posted! Thanks for revising this thread, [USER=99456]@Sulla80[/USER] , these are really interesting.</p><p><br /></p><p>Especially for the cross-cultural influences and -- astonishingly -- the "cross-historical" influences...</p><p><br /></p><p>Copying dies ~1,000 years old. So they kept some kind of "collection" at the mint (or accessible to the mint-masters). It would be great to know the nature of those collections.</p><p><br /></p><p>(And now, as Sulla's comment shows, we're using those for inspiration after another millennium! There's some "Classical Reception" for you!)</p><p><br /></p><p>I have exactly TWO of Islamic Figurals from the Artuqids of Mardin.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is from my "plate coin" collection. <i>Islamic Coins and Their Values</i>, p. 117, #1203.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1582545[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="4"><b>Artuqids of Mardin. Najm al-Din Alpi Æ Dirham </b>(10.98g, 32mm, 3h), citing Abbasid caliph al-Mustanjid billah, AH 547-572 / 1152-1176 CE.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Obv</b>: Two diademed and draped male heads wearing necklaces (Gemini?); Kalima.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Rev</b>: Youthful female head facing (Virgo?), wearing necklace, within beaded circle; names & titles in margin.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Ref</b>: Spengler & Sayles 30.1; ICV 1203 (this coin illustrated).</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Prov</b>: Künker Auction 204 (Osnabrück, 12 Mar 2012), lot 1088; Tim Wilkes FPL 23, July 2017, 99; <a href="https://www.sixbid.com/de/dix-noonan-webb/8258/islamic-coins-from-various-properties/6831398/islamic-coins-from-various-properties-br" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sixbid.com/de/dix-noonan-webb/8258/islamic-coins-from-various-properties/6831398/islamic-coins-from-various-properties-br" rel="nofollow">Dix Noonan Webb (10 Mar 2021), lot 793</a>.</font></p></blockquote><p>[ATTACH=full]1582544[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Note</b>: As the two sets of photos show, apparently there isn't universal agreement about which is obverse. I think I have it right above?... Kalima is always the obverse?</p><p><br /></p><p>Spengler & Sayles suggest an astrological interpretation, widely but not universally adopted: Gemini and Virgo (the "two houses of Mercury"). I have my own theories about which dies inspired it (Severan, including a Dynastic Aureus).</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>My second one is a considerable step down in quality. But I like the patina and that it names Saladin. (Unless I'm mistaken!) Just photographed it for the first time to post:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1582546[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="4"><b>Artuqids of Mardin. Husam al-Din Yuluq Arslan Æ Dirham</b>, AH 580-597 / 1184-1201 CE.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Obv</b>: Diademed male bust facing.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Rev</b>: Legend in six pointed star & in margins, naming the Ayubbid overlord Saladin.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Ref</b>: Spengler & Sayles 33; ICV 1206.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Prov</b>: Ex Holding History / N. Hochrein (DiPere, WI, 13 Dec 2014).</font></p></blockquote><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24738460, member: 26430"]Wow, some cool coins just posted! Thanks for revising this thread, [USER=99456]@Sulla80[/USER] , these are really interesting. Especially for the cross-cultural influences and -- astonishingly -- the "cross-historical" influences... Copying dies ~1,000 years old. So they kept some kind of "collection" at the mint (or accessible to the mint-masters). It would be great to know the nature of those collections. (And now, as Sulla's comment shows, we're using those for inspiration after another millennium! There's some "Classical Reception" for you!) I have exactly TWO of Islamic Figurals from the Artuqids of Mardin. This is from my "plate coin" collection. [I]Islamic Coins and Their Values[/I], p. 117, #1203. [ATTACH=full]1582545[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=4][B]Artuqids of Mardin. Najm al-Din Alpi Æ Dirham [/B](10.98g, 32mm, 3h), citing Abbasid caliph al-Mustanjid billah, AH 547-572 / 1152-1176 CE. [B]Obv[/B]: Two diademed and draped male heads wearing necklaces (Gemini?); Kalima. [B]Rev[/B]: Youthful female head facing (Virgo?), wearing necklace, within beaded circle; names & titles in margin. [B]Ref[/B]: Spengler & Sayles 30.1; ICV 1203 (this coin illustrated). [B]Prov[/B]: Künker Auction 204 (Osnabrück, 12 Mar 2012), lot 1088; Tim Wilkes FPL 23, July 2017, 99; [URL='https://www.sixbid.com/de/dix-noonan-webb/8258/islamic-coins-from-various-properties/6831398/islamic-coins-from-various-properties-br']Dix Noonan Webb (10 Mar 2021), lot 793[/URL].[/SIZE][/INDENT] [ATTACH=full]1582544[/ATTACH] [B]Note[/B]: As the two sets of photos show, apparently there isn't universal agreement about which is obverse. I think I have it right above?... Kalima is always the obverse? Spengler & Sayles suggest an astrological interpretation, widely but not universally adopted: Gemini and Virgo (the "two houses of Mercury"). I have my own theories about which dies inspired it (Severan, including a Dynastic Aureus). My second one is a considerable step down in quality. But I like the patina and that it names Saladin. (Unless I'm mistaken!) Just photographed it for the first time to post: [ATTACH=full]1582546[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=4][B]Artuqids of Mardin. Husam al-Din Yuluq Arslan Æ Dirham[/B], AH 580-597 / 1184-1201 CE. [B]Obv[/B]: Diademed male bust facing. [B]Rev[/B]: Legend in six pointed star & in margins, naming the Ayubbid overlord Saladin. [B]Ref[/B]: Spengler & Sayles 33; ICV 1206. [B]Prov[/B]: Ex Holding History / N. Hochrein (DiPere, WI, 13 Dec 2014).[/SIZE][/INDENT][/QUOTE]
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