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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Boss, post: 491611, member: 15110&quot;]I like all the points made and it seems most are agreeing. I like the points Doug made in particular.&nbsp; The only thing I disagree with is this:&nbsp; If you already have a hairlined or damaged coin (whether by your own stupidity or others) what do you do with it?&nbsp; Is is worthless?&nbsp; If toning &quot;hides&quot; the defect and the coin is more attractive, is not the owner and future owners of that coin more satisfied with the toned version of that coin.&nbsp; Case in point for me:&nbsp; I bought a 1914 D VF 35 NGC Lincoln from Heritage last year.&nbsp; Foolishly cracked out because at the time I wanted all my coins in sequencing for viewing in my 2x2 Intercepts, i.e. did not want to collect graded coins.&nbsp; I since changed my mind and am collecting graded coins for protection, value, etc..&nbsp; Coin had spots I didn&#039;t like so sent to NCS with 8 other coins.&nbsp; 6 came back graded and conserved well (removed finger prints, verdigris,etc).&nbsp; This one and my 1869 IHC we&#039;re &quot;ruined&quot;.&nbsp; No access to my photos now (I will post them this Sat when I am home), but the 1914 D is notedly hairlined, spots not removed and now more obvious due to coin lightening in color.&nbsp; The 1869 went from being a nicely toned coin with a questionable prior cleaning, to an obvious previous chemical cleaning after conservation.&nbsp; I have over a grand in rare coins now devalued.&nbsp; The 1869 probably would not have graded but it is now much less attractive.&nbsp; Should I throw in albumn and wait 10 years all the while disdaining these coins and having to check them all the time so that verdigris doesn&#039;t devlop in the albumn or ugly toning?&nbsp; If I can accelerate the toning in a natural way I certainly will.&nbsp; If I choose to sell should I say &quot;oncing harshly cleaned then toned niclely; silly me I sent to NCS, they screwed it up and now for sale to you with these beautiful hairlines&quot;.&nbsp; I think it&#039; hypocritical to say &quot;toning to hide damage is wrong.&quot;. If there is a single collector out there who has NEVER owned a improperly cleaned or hairlined coin I would like to meet them.&nbsp; And what did you do with your harshly cleaned or hairlined coin?&nbsp; Sell it as is?&nbsp; I&#039;d be willing to bet 99% of the collector would try or hope to improve the look of such coins prior to sale or trade in.&nbsp; Should we leave these coins in these sad states?&nbsp; How many DBH&#039;s or seated dollars are toned with hiden hairlines in TPG holders?&nbsp; In fact if anyone has suggestions for how to safely speed up the toning of these two coins I am all ears.&nbsp; Currently, they are in ziplocks in airtites with a bunch of Taco Bell napkins and dessicants. Sorry to rant or be disagreable.&nbsp; I just call it like I see it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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