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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 489705, member: 15309"]I agree completely with this post. Too many collectors learn the indicators of AT coins and pronounce a coin a coin AT when they see one of the indicators. The reason they are called indicators is because they are not definitive. When you see an AT indicator, it should tell you to spend more time analyzing the toning on the coin. In other words, it should raise your suspicions.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is no substitute for experience in any part of life including numismatics and the AT vs NT debate. I have found the best way to try to determine the originality of toning is by becoming familiar with the toning patterns normally seen for that series. If you see toning on a Peace Dollar that looks like it belongs on a Morgan Dollar, you should be suspicious. I collect both and I have never seen a toned Peace Dollar with colors as vibrant as those posted in my other thread. Attractively toned Peace Dollars are exceptionally rare and those that exist almost never display bright vibrant neon colors the way that Morgan Dollars do.</p><p><br /></p><p>Having said that, it is not impossible to run across an NT Peace Dollar with neon colors. It is just that they are so rare, each one found should face the highest level of scrutiny. This leads us to Doug's final point. Many, many times, even the foremost experts on toning will not be able to determine the originality of the toning. All they can do is decide whether or not the toning is questionable or market acceptable.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would like to post two coins that are in E-Bay auctions by the same seller right now. One is definitely AT. The other resides in PCGS holder. I will say that I rarely see a Morgan Dollar with this color scheme or toning pattern.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FCRAZY-RAINBOW-TONED-1886-MORGAN-DOLLAR-SLABBED-UNCIRCUL_W0QQitemZ260338348726QQihZ016QQcategoryZ139811QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FCRAZY-RAINBOW-TONED-1886-MORGAN-DOLLAR-SLABBED-UNCIRCUL_W0QQitemZ260338348726QQihZ016QQcategoryZ139811QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/CRAZY-RAINBOW-TONED-1886-MORGAN-DOLLAR-SLABBED-UNCIRCUL_W0QQitemZ260338348726QQihZ016QQcategoryZ139811QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/ATMorgan.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FAWESOME-RAINBOW-TONED-1880-S-MORGAN-DOLLAR-PCGS-MS-65_W0QQitemZ260338351996QQihZ016QQcategoryZ39465QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FAWESOME-RAINBOW-TONED-1880-S-MORGAN-DOLLAR-PCGS-MS-65_W0QQitemZ260338351996QQihZ016QQcategoryZ39465QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/AWESOME-RAINBOW-TONED-1880-S-MORGAN-DOLLAR-PCGS-MS-65_W0QQitemZ260338351996QQihZ016QQcategoryZ39465QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/QTMorgan.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now I am not saying that the second coin is AT, but there are indicators of AT on this coin and the pattern and color scheme are not consistent with those seen from my experience. My guess is that the photos have been altered using photoshop and that the colors do not actually look like the photo.</p><p><br /></p><p>But know this, just because that coin resides in a PCGS holder does not mean that it is not AT. It simply means that PCGS decided that the toning is market acceptable.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 489705, member: 15309"]I agree completely with this post. Too many collectors learn the indicators of AT coins and pronounce a coin a coin AT when they see one of the indicators. The reason they are called indicators is because they are not definitive. When you see an AT indicator, it should tell you to spend more time analyzing the toning on the coin. In other words, it should raise your suspicions. There is no substitute for experience in any part of life including numismatics and the AT vs NT debate. I have found the best way to try to determine the originality of toning is by becoming familiar with the toning patterns normally seen for that series. If you see toning on a Peace Dollar that looks like it belongs on a Morgan Dollar, you should be suspicious. I collect both and I have never seen a toned Peace Dollar with colors as vibrant as those posted in my other thread. Attractively toned Peace Dollars are exceptionally rare and those that exist almost never display bright vibrant neon colors the way that Morgan Dollars do. Having said that, it is not impossible to run across an NT Peace Dollar with neon colors. It is just that they are so rare, each one found should face the highest level of scrutiny. This leads us to Doug's final point. Many, many times, even the foremost experts on toning will not be able to determine the originality of the toning. All they can do is decide whether or not the toning is questionable or market acceptable. I would like to post two coins that are in E-Bay auctions by the same seller right now. One is definitely AT. The other resides in PCGS holder. I will say that I rarely see a Morgan Dollar with this color scheme or toning pattern. [URL="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FCRAZY-RAINBOW-TONED-1886-MORGAN-DOLLAR-SLABBED-UNCIRCUL_W0QQitemZ260338348726QQihZ016QQcategoryZ139811QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.com/CRAZY-RAINBOW-TONED-1886-MORGAN-DOLLAR-SLABBED-UNCIRCUL_W0QQitemZ260338348726QQihZ016QQcategoryZ139811QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/URL] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/ATMorgan.jpg[/IMG] [URL="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5335874456&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FAWESOME-RAINBOW-TONED-1880-S-MORGAN-DOLLAR-PCGS-MS-65_W0QQitemZ260338351996QQihZ016QQcategoryZ39465QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.com/AWESOME-RAINBOW-TONED-1880-S-MORGAN-DOLLAR-PCGS-MS-65_W0QQitemZ260338351996QQihZ016QQcategoryZ39465QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/URL] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/QTMorgan.jpg[/IMG] Now I am not saying that the second coin is AT, but there are indicators of AT on this coin and the pattern and color scheme are not consistent with those seen from my experience. My guess is that the photos have been altered using photoshop and that the colors do not actually look like the photo. But know this, just because that coin resides in a PCGS holder does not mean that it is not AT. It simply means that PCGS decided that the toning is market acceptable.[/QUOTE]
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