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Message:: [QUOTE="Pocket Change, post: 487578, member: 8012"]Our friend Mr. Eddie Spin brings this question up in another thread. It appears that most people consider "time" to be a major criterion.  The word that I think really clouds the issue is "natural". Most everyone would say a coin with "ringed" toning that has been sitting in an album for 20 years has "natural" toning.  What is "natural" about sitting in an album?  Is that what this coin was minted for?  Is that its "natural" environment? Same goes for the famous Morgan canvas bags.  What was "natural" about that?  Was that what the coin was designed for? When someone dies of "natural" causes, WikiPedia describes it as thus (I have added the boldface): In medicine, death by natural causes is a loosely-defined term used by coroners describing death when the cause of death was a naturally occurring disease process, or is not apparent given medical history or circumstances. Thus, deaths caused by active human intervention (as opposed to the failure of medical intervention to prevent death) are excluded from this definition, and are described as unnatural deaths. At first blush, it looks like albums and canvas bags are legit because while it required human intervention to put the coins there, they were left alone. Well what about putting coins in Kraft envelopes or purposely putting them on the window sill (even if it's for 10 years)?  Same deal? If I put a coin in a cigar box for five years because I know it will tone, how is this really different from heating a coin in a certain way because I know it will tone??????? Once again, we seem to let time be the deciding factor.[/QUOTE]

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