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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2716213, member: 15309"]The number or toned coins didn't skyrocket, they were always there, hidden away because nobody wanted them. Before the internet, people preferred blast white coins. B&M coin dealers either dipped toned coins or kept them out of sight for the occasional customer who liked them.</p><p><br /></p><p>The boom of the toned coin market coincided with the internet boom and advances in digital photography. Once people could take digital photographs and post their photos of rainbow toned coins online, the demand for those coins skyrocketed and the hidden supplies came out of the woodwork.</p><p><br /></p><p>And just like you have tried to convince me that the boom in rainbow toned coins starting in the late 90's is caused by coin doctors and artificial toning, so have I tried to convince you that my theory is correct.</p><p><br /></p><p>Even today, on this very forum, a newbie will sign up, see a thread about rainbow toned coins, and voice their amazement because they had no idea that coins like that even existed. It happens all the time. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for you statement that the reason why they don't skyrocket more is because "they have no desire to kill the golden goose," that is very interesting. You are claiming that the number of AT coins being introduced into the market is controlled as to maintain high price premiums. If you create too many, and they become too common place, nobody will pay a premium, correct? But earlier in this very thread, you espoused how easy it is to create AT coins. The thing is Doug, you can't have it both ways. If it is easy to AT coins, and anyone can do it, it is impossible to control the number of coins entering the market. Each individual coin doctor would be making his own coins and would have no concern or control over the multitude of other coin doctors doing the same thing. In order to control the population of AT coins entering the market, the knowledge of how to AT coins would need to be limited to a small number or coin doctors, which would by definition mean that AT coins that can fool the TPGS is NOT EASY!</p><p><br /></p><p>And I actually agree with you about your basic premise. There are coin doctors who can fool the TPGs, but none of those guys bat anywhere near 1.000 which means they incur risk of failure, which hurts their profit margins. I also agree that those coin doctors never divulge their secrets and are careful not to release too many coins at one time in order to both, avoid detection and maintain price premiums. That said, the number of coins created by these coin doctors pales in comparison to the number of toned coins generated by nature.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now that I have agreed with some of your points, will you concede that it is impossible to control AT populations if ATing coins was EASY?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2716213, member: 15309"]The number or toned coins didn't skyrocket, they were always there, hidden away because nobody wanted them. Before the internet, people preferred blast white coins. B&M coin dealers either dipped toned coins or kept them out of sight for the occasional customer who liked them. The boom of the toned coin market coincided with the internet boom and advances in digital photography. Once people could take digital photographs and post their photos of rainbow toned coins online, the demand for those coins skyrocketed and the hidden supplies came out of the woodwork. And just like you have tried to convince me that the boom in rainbow toned coins starting in the late 90's is caused by coin doctors and artificial toning, so have I tried to convince you that my theory is correct. Even today, on this very forum, a newbie will sign up, see a thread about rainbow toned coins, and voice their amazement because they had no idea that coins like that even existed. It happens all the time. As for you statement that the reason why they don't skyrocket more is because "they have no desire to kill the golden goose," that is very interesting. You are claiming that the number of AT coins being introduced into the market is controlled as to maintain high price premiums. If you create too many, and they become too common place, nobody will pay a premium, correct? But earlier in this very thread, you espoused how easy it is to create AT coins. The thing is Doug, you can't have it both ways. If it is easy to AT coins, and anyone can do it, it is impossible to control the number of coins entering the market. Each individual coin doctor would be making his own coins and would have no concern or control over the multitude of other coin doctors doing the same thing. In order to control the population of AT coins entering the market, the knowledge of how to AT coins would need to be limited to a small number or coin doctors, which would by definition mean that AT coins that can fool the TPGS is NOT EASY! And I actually agree with you about your basic premise. There are coin doctors who can fool the TPGs, but none of those guys bat anywhere near 1.000 which means they incur risk of failure, which hurts their profit margins. I also agree that those coin doctors never divulge their secrets and are careful not to release too many coins at one time in order to both, avoid detection and maintain price premiums. That said, the number of coins created by these coin doctors pales in comparison to the number of toned coins generated by nature. Now that I have agreed with some of your points, will you concede that it is impossible to control AT populations if ATing coins was EASY?[/QUOTE]
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