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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Drusus, post: 689107, member: 6370&quot;]Okay...well, I have to also agree that intent might be key when it comes to coins, already in the possession of a collector, which tone because of what that collector has done to it. Problem is that intent, in most cases, probably cannot be determined. If a person put a coin into a holder or the attic and the coin toned but he had no idea this would happen, he had no intention of it happening...that would certainly be...unintentional. Whether the toning could truly be called NATURAL is a bit questionable since something WAS done that speeds up a process that, under more normal conditions, takes a very long time...and by normal I would even allow hot and humid places like where I live.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I have always considered natural toning to be more of the type that comes about after a very long time...the type of toning that is showing on some of my coins after decades of sitting in storage down here in Houston where, at a times, it can be very hot and humid...the type of toning that comes about where a coin has:</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>1. Been stored for a very long time where the owner has done nothing to promote the toning. I can attest to the fact that toning will happen ever so slowly by just putting a coin in a 2x2 and putting the coin in a drawer for decades in conditions that neither overly promotes toning nor overly protects the coin from toning. These coins tone so slowly that to get a coin to tone as bright and colorful as so many I see would take so long that they would be quite rare IMO. (again, no other factors at work on the coin)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>2. A coin that has been exposed to extreme conditions or elements that promote toning purely by accident. Cases like the Morgan lost in an attic and then found decades later, fell through the crack in the floor, etc...these cases are certainly rare as well when not intentional. The holders that tone coins, I don&#039;t know.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So the way I have always seen toning is that super color toned coins like this, coming about in the way I have always seen as natural...is quite rare. The problem is, they aren&#039;t rare at all. I can easily go and buy 5 right now.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I only have my own experiences to go by and in my own experience, my coins have taken literally decades...some have taken a whole life time to develop even a hint of color being stored unprotected in a drawer in the hot and humid Houston weather (and indeed it gets hot to the point where its hard to keep your house cool)...I have never personally seen a coin achieve color like these coins stored normally. More often than not they tone dark with a hint of color which is what I have always called &#039;natural tone&#039;. I have even seen a morgan that was found in the attic and it was almost BLACK with a haze of color that could be seen in the black...never a crisp clear clean color like I see.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>With that...I am spent... <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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