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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 686718, member: 112"]Jim in all these conversations we've had over the years there really is only 1 distinguishing difference between NT & AT. And it can be expressed in a single word - intent. Other than that, there are no differences. With AT, coins are intentionally toned; with NT, coins are accidentally toned.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I realize that you understand this, but for those who have not heard it before I will express the ideas again.</p><p><br /></p><p>Take for ecxample the person who goes out and buys and old Waite Raymond album for the express purpose of gettings his coins to tone.</p><p><br /></p><p>Or the person who places his coins in the old manila envelopes; or the person who places his coins in the old tab holders; or in a Whitman folder, or even in an original Mint Set holder from the '40s & '50s. And then purposely stores these in an environment with changing temperatures and high humidity. There are many other methods that result in the exact same thing - coins that are toned by the same methods that occur with naturally toned coins. But coins that were intentionally exposed to these conditions, thus toned in a very short time, and as such are AT by definition.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now some will argue that this is not AT because only natural forces were at work. Well that's true, but those natural forces had help, human help. And in my mind they are no different in any way than the coins that are intentionally exposed to gases that result in the same thing happening - only faster. </p><p><br /></p><p>These people who argue this point will often scream from the rafters that the gas method is 100% AT. Me, I see no difference at all. For the exact same gases are put off by those old albums, holders & envelopes. It is the gases after all, in both situations, that cause the toning.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thus we come back to that single word - intent.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 686718, member: 112"]Jim in all these conversations we've had over the years there really is only 1 distinguishing difference between NT & AT. And it can be expressed in a single word - intent. Other than that, there are no differences. With AT, coins are intentionally toned; with NT, coins are accidentally toned. Now I realize that you understand this, but for those who have not heard it before I will express the ideas again. Take for ecxample the person who goes out and buys and old Waite Raymond album for the express purpose of gettings his coins to tone. Or the person who places his coins in the old manila envelopes; or the person who places his coins in the old tab holders; or in a Whitman folder, or even in an original Mint Set holder from the '40s & '50s. And then purposely stores these in an environment with changing temperatures and high humidity. There are many other methods that result in the exact same thing - coins that are toned by the same methods that occur with naturally toned coins. But coins that were intentionally exposed to these conditions, thus toned in a very short time, and as such are AT by definition. Now some will argue that this is not AT because only natural forces were at work. Well that's true, but those natural forces had help, human help. And in my mind they are no different in any way than the coins that are intentionally exposed to gases that result in the same thing happening - only faster. These people who argue this point will often scream from the rafters that the gas method is 100% AT. Me, I see no difference at all. For the exact same gases are put off by those old albums, holders & envelopes. It is the gases after all, in both situations, that cause the toning. Thus we come back to that single word - intent.[/QUOTE]
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