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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Vess1, post: 685587, member: 13650&quot;]Lehigh, what do you think of these from the same seller?</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; Here&#039;s an 1881-S that got a MS-64 PL star designation! For 3 grand!</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&amp;campid=5335874456&amp;toolid=10001&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F1881-s-NGC-MS64-PL-Star-Rainbow-Toned-Morgan-Dollar_W0QQitemZ360167853925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual%3Fhash%3Ditem53dbad4f65%26_trksid%3Dp3911.c0.m14" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&amp;campid=5335874456&amp;toolid=10001&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F1881-s-NGC-MS64-PL-Star-Rainbow-Toned-Morgan-Dollar_W0QQitemZ360167853925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual%3Fhash%3Ditem53dbad4f65%26_trksid%3Dp3911.c0.m14" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1881-s-NGC-MS64-PL-Star-Rainbow-Toned-Morgan-Dollar_W0QQitemZ360167853925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item53dbad4f65&amp;_trksid=p3911.c0.m14</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; Now look at this 1964-D Washington MS-64 slabbed by NGC as well.&nbsp; I bid on this but didn&#039;t win.&nbsp; I&#039;m not so much concerned by the large, brightened, blown up image (although compare the shade of green in both blown up images.)&nbsp;&nbsp; But look at the full slab view and compare!</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;<a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&amp;campid=5335874456&amp;toolid=10001&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D360176325153%26ssPageName%3DSTRK%3AMEDWX%3AIT" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&amp;campid=5335874456&amp;toolid=10001&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D360176325153%26ssPageName%3DSTRK%3AMEDWX%3AIT" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=360176325153&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT</a></p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; These two coins of different denominations from the same seller look to have a very similar green and purple pattern IMO.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would not bid on that quarter again.&nbsp;&nbsp; It&#039;s just too coincidental.&nbsp;&nbsp; These should be extremely rare to even be in existence, let alone in the hands of the same seller.&nbsp;&nbsp; And then the quarter should not sell that cheaply.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;On top of that, the colors are so extreme.&nbsp; What causes this?&nbsp; My grandfather stored several 1921 Morgans in a cardboard box with tissue and he smoked.&nbsp;&nbsp; They were left in this state for decades and there isn&#039;t even a hint of colorful toning on any of them.&nbsp;&nbsp; Or the Peace dollars.&nbsp; Or all the paper wrapped silver quarters that were in there.&nbsp; No color whatsoever.&nbsp;&nbsp; Just dark, blackish looking coins.&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; I find it hard to believe that a dealer can find so many colorful coins, in all denominations, some supposedly worth 5 digits and be able to have enough supply to keep a business going.&nbsp;&nbsp; Where do they all come from?&nbsp; How does a small time dealer afford to have a $3k toned coin in their inventory?&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; Do you think the TPGs have been compromised?&nbsp; I mean, if these are AT, how could you tell besides the fact that one guy has both of them at the same time?&nbsp;&nbsp; How do you physically tell and can you really rely on NGC like we thought we could?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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