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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 685520, member: 15309&quot;]For those that actually read the threads, you will see that my comments were not very welcomed by Shane or anybody else for that matter.&nbsp; I understand the zeal and mindset of the whistle blowers in these scenarios, but they are the ones that deliver the final blow to the market IMO.</p><p><br /></p><p>Consider that many of these coins show toning patterns that are absolutely common.&nbsp; The reason for the AT accusation hinged upon the coins coming from the same source, at the same time, spanning different denominations, and date/mm that don&#039;t typically show that type of toning.&nbsp; While this seems like damning evidence of AT, and it might very well be true, the person that calls into question the authenticity of the toning then compromises the originality of any NT coin that was slabbed prior to the so called AT coins entrance in the market.&nbsp; If this was done behind closed doors, it would have been okay.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Now, everyone who reads these threads will be convinced that there is no way to determine NT from AT and will lose all confidence in the TPG&#039;s to do so as well. This will crush the toned coin market.</p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately, my efforts to point this out in a subtle way fell on deaf ears.&nbsp; The most vocal accuser was more interested in being right than thinking about the consequences of his actions.&nbsp; I admit that it is counter intuitive that silence regarding AT discoveries is more beneficial to the market than proliferation of information, but that is how I see it.&nbsp; How many collectors will read these threads which are now on every major forum and stop collecting rainbow toned coins?&nbsp; The loss of these collectors will result in decreased demand which will suppress prices significantly.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for my personal opinion regarding the authenticity of the toning of these coins, I will say this.&nbsp; The color progressions are correct in most cases, but as Mike pointed out, this is only and indicator of NT and not definitive proof.&nbsp; It is apparent that the coin doctors have stumbled upon a method to produce correct color progression.&nbsp; However, that is not the only indicator used to determine originality.&nbsp; Furthermore, the colors we are seeing are in saturation enhanced photographs.&nbsp; The coins may look very different in hand.&nbsp; The colors will most likely not be as vibrant as the photos and the overall appearance of the color on the coin is a significant factor in the NT vs AT debate.&nbsp; Most have heard the phrase about colors that float on the surface of the coin being AT.&nbsp; Most have no idea what that means and I don&#039;t know how to describe it in words.&nbsp; But I can say this, when you see an AT coin that shows this effect, it is rather obvious.&nbsp; Here is the best example I could find from my collection.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Jefferson%20Nickels%20Raw/020509001.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I will make no judgment about the originality of any of these coins until I have seen them in hand.&nbsp; Furthermore, I urge that everyone who reads these threads to keep an open mind and not make any premature conclusions regarding these coins or the toned coin market as a whole until they have all of the facts.</p><p><br /></p><p>One of the determining factors about the originality of these coins hinged upon the fact that date/mm combinations that don&#039;t normally show rainbow toning&nbsp; showed up.&nbsp; Included in this group was the 1884-O Morgan Dollar.&nbsp; When I asked why this coin which is commonly found rainbow toned was included, I was given the explanation that it came from the same source as the other toned coins.&nbsp; I understand the explanation but don&#039;t agree with it at all.&nbsp; Each coin should stand on it&#039;s own merit.&nbsp; If you can look at a coin and determine it&#039;s originality, fine.&nbsp; If not, then the TPG&#039;s decide if the toning is market acceptable.&nbsp; If some AT coins get slabbed as a result, I am fine with that.&nbsp; The other alternative is for the TPG&#039;s to admit publicly that they don&#039;t know, can&#039;t tell, and ruin both their consumer confidence and the rainbow toned market together.</p><p><br /></p><p>RANT OVER, Sorry![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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