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<p>[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 495739, member: 6370"]Absurd statement.</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>If you have all this great amount of info and you dont share it to help others, shame on you. You have a chance to offer real help and valuable information to help people conserve their coins and you withhold it.</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>If people tell others not to clean coins, especial new members and they do not say 'harshly'...it is completely moronic to expect people to ASSUME you mean harsh cleaning...you need to learn to communicate effectively if you wish to offer advice. I have seen you say...sight unseen...that if you cleaned a coin, you took away all its value...you would never admit you said something stupid, I know that...but you should actually find out how the person cleaned the coin or even SEE it before make such a statement...how is a new collector supposed to know you mean HARSH cleaning when all you say is DONT CLEAN COINS....</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>so you know so much about coin conservation but dont know how to remove BD...I see...Again...you were asking for help to conserve a coin...you dont want to handle the conservation on expensive coins...thats fine for you...how will a new collector learn to even help conserve their cheap coins, or learn these techniques at all if NO ONE WILL TELL THEM. I guess we should all just bite the bullet and pay for even the cheapest coins to be conserved or let them rot right? Great way of saving coins.</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>So you are saying new collectors are just too stupid to follow directions on how to clean a coin, they all will simply damage coins if trusted with the oh so difficult procedures on how to do even the simplest conservation and cleaning? Unlike you I dont pre-judge peoples ability to follow directions and would rather help them and not send them off without any REAL advice...THEN they will damage coins...If a new collector is GIVEN GOOD ADVICE then why would you say they will harm them...are people just lazy and dont want to help them to make sure they dont damage the coin? I have a feeling, like I said before...most here have no real advice to give.</p><p> </p><p>Again, you seem not to even read posts before responding. I have said, in this thread, that I HAVE ruined coins trying to clean them...why? because I had no one to help me, just a bunch a people saying 'dont clean coins'. If they had offered advice, I am smart enough to follow it...instead I get some person telling me I should just be happy with a dirty, sticky, filthy coin. If people in the know had taken the time to spell it out for me, I am bright enough to follow instructions and I could have done it...instead I had to use TRIAL and ERROR and I ruined coins doing it...</p><p> </p><p>I never twisted your words...it was a direct quote. I am not a fool, I can read...</p><p> </p><p>If your opinion is not to tell people how to clean coins as you sit on a wealth of information on the subject...what else is there for you to say here? I can get that advice 10 times a day from people who either do not know how, or dont want to take the time to help. I am looking to do something about it...I am looking to put up a page with GOOD advice on conservation of coins with warnings and best and worst techniques...I am looking for people WHO ACTUALLY KNOW how to conserve coins and know advanced methods to contribute...If you have so much knowledge on the subject...PM me and spell it out...I wont hold my breath though. Otherwise you are just sitting on the information and refusing to help your fellow collector, I wont bicker with you about this...If we are here to HELP we should.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 495739, member: 6370"]Absurd statement. If you have all this great amount of info and you dont share it to help others, shame on you. You have a chance to offer real help and valuable information to help people conserve their coins and you withhold it. If people tell others not to clean coins, especial new members and they do not say 'harshly'...it is completely moronic to expect people to ASSUME you mean harsh cleaning...you need to learn to communicate effectively if you wish to offer advice. I have seen you say...sight unseen...that if you cleaned a coin, you took away all its value...you would never admit you said something stupid, I know that...but you should actually find out how the person cleaned the coin or even SEE it before make such a statement...how is a new collector supposed to know you mean HARSH cleaning when all you say is DONT CLEAN COINS.... so you know so much about coin conservation but dont know how to remove BD...I see...Again...you were asking for help to conserve a coin...you dont want to handle the conservation on expensive coins...thats fine for you...how will a new collector learn to even help conserve their cheap coins, or learn these techniques at all if NO ONE WILL TELL THEM. I guess we should all just bite the bullet and pay for even the cheapest coins to be conserved or let them rot right? Great way of saving coins. So you are saying new collectors are just too stupid to follow directions on how to clean a coin, they all will simply damage coins if trusted with the oh so difficult procedures on how to do even the simplest conservation and cleaning? Unlike you I dont pre-judge peoples ability to follow directions and would rather help them and not send them off without any REAL advice...THEN they will damage coins...If a new collector is GIVEN GOOD ADVICE then why would you say they will harm them...are people just lazy and dont want to help them to make sure they dont damage the coin? I have a feeling, like I said before...most here have no real advice to give. Again, you seem not to even read posts before responding. I have said, in this thread, that I HAVE ruined coins trying to clean them...why? because I had no one to help me, just a bunch a people saying 'dont clean coins'. If they had offered advice, I am smart enough to follow it...instead I get some person telling me I should just be happy with a dirty, sticky, filthy coin. If people in the know had taken the time to spell it out for me, I am bright enough to follow instructions and I could have done it...instead I had to use TRIAL and ERROR and I ruined coins doing it... I never twisted your words...it was a direct quote. I am not a fool, I can read... If your opinion is not to tell people how to clean coins as you sit on a wealth of information on the subject...what else is there for you to say here? I can get that advice 10 times a day from people who either do not know how, or dont want to take the time to help. I am looking to do something about it...I am looking to put up a page with GOOD advice on conservation of coins with warnings and best and worst techniques...I am looking for people WHO ACTUALLY KNOW how to conserve coins and know advanced methods to contribute...If you have so much knowledge on the subject...PM me and spell it out...I wont hold my breath though. Otherwise you are just sitting on the information and refusing to help your fellow collector, I wont bicker with you about this...If we are here to HELP we should.[/QUOTE]
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