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<p>[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 495621, member: 6370"]I just disagree with you GD but thats not new...I think people dont tell people how to properly conserve a coin 95% of the time because they simply dont know how to do it themselves, so they just say dont do it instead of say 'I dont know'. I dont think they have some higher morality towards coins owned by someone else...and if that IS the reason then they are fooling themselves that they are somehow stopping someone from ruining a coin...I can completely understand why one would not pass on how to doctor a coin and other such practices...but to knowingly withhold REAL helpful info on how to CONSERVE a coin... on a website that is supposed to be here to help the collector...with an admin whose tag line is 'knowledge...share it...' is ironic. Again, maybe most here just dont have that knowledge to share....</p><p> </p><p>Most people arent like me? You must have read me wrong. I have ruined quite a few LRB and common world coins trying things...trial and error...if someone had just been open and honest and helpful then I might have succeeded in getting those coins cleaned without ruining them. Of course these coins were only worth about 2-3 bucks a piece but to me they are pieces of history and if I did not have to test things out myself and instead had a person who was willing to take the time and walk me through it, they might have been saved...I believe most people will be this way...so if you think you are saving coins by WITHHOLDING helpful info, you arent. The coins I am talking about are coins that were in the ground for many years, coins with BD, or coins that were simply stored improperly and had gunk and filth on them...these things are not good for a coin, if left on the coin, they will ruin them and only by proper cleaning could a collector help these coins...and by withholding the info you are now saying you will not help save a coin...is that helping save coins? Not at all...</p><p> </p><p>It boggles my mind sometimes how people think...instead of helping a person and giving them advice you send them out to learn it on their own through trial and error and you think you are saving coins!!! </p><p> </p><p>I have some highly valuable and rare coins but because of how some of them were stored many have needed attention. I CAN say I did nothing to these coins that would harm them or ruin them but because I was forced to try and develop my own methods, lesser coins (still ancients and cool world coins, but much poorer quality) were ruined as I tried all the bad advice given on websites like vinegar paste, electrolysis and the like. These coins were ruined because of people who refused to give advice..but more likely in most cases, they had no real advice to give.</p><p> </p><p>Anyway...I started my page yesterday, if anyone has any good information concerning how to properly conserve coins like the pro's, PM me or go to my website and e-mail me, or god forbid post them here on a forum that is supposed to be here to help the collector... and I will give you credit if you like. This saving people from themselves attitude and the assumption that people are stupid, the 'most people dont realize / know' or speaking for all collectors nonsense is just that...but maybe I just have a higher opinion of people than some and I think that if they are able to do something right, if given the right info...they will...and withholding information that will help people conserve coins on a coin site is crazy and counter productive and going against what this site is supposed to be about....thanks[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 495621, member: 6370"]I just disagree with you GD but thats not new...I think people dont tell people how to properly conserve a coin 95% of the time because they simply dont know how to do it themselves, so they just say dont do it instead of say 'I dont know'. I dont think they have some higher morality towards coins owned by someone else...and if that IS the reason then they are fooling themselves that they are somehow stopping someone from ruining a coin...I can completely understand why one would not pass on how to doctor a coin and other such practices...but to knowingly withhold REAL helpful info on how to CONSERVE a coin... on a website that is supposed to be here to help the collector...with an admin whose tag line is 'knowledge...share it...' is ironic. Again, maybe most here just dont have that knowledge to share.... Most people arent like me? You must have read me wrong. I have ruined quite a few LRB and common world coins trying things...trial and error...if someone had just been open and honest and helpful then I might have succeeded in getting those coins cleaned without ruining them. Of course these coins were only worth about 2-3 bucks a piece but to me they are pieces of history and if I did not have to test things out myself and instead had a person who was willing to take the time and walk me through it, they might have been saved...I believe most people will be this way...so if you think you are saving coins by WITHHOLDING helpful info, you arent. The coins I am talking about are coins that were in the ground for many years, coins with BD, or coins that were simply stored improperly and had gunk and filth on them...these things are not good for a coin, if left on the coin, they will ruin them and only by proper cleaning could a collector help these coins...and by withholding the info you are now saying you will not help save a coin...is that helping save coins? Not at all... It boggles my mind sometimes how people think...instead of helping a person and giving them advice you send them out to learn it on their own through trial and error and you think you are saving coins!!! I have some highly valuable and rare coins but because of how some of them were stored many have needed attention. I CAN say I did nothing to these coins that would harm them or ruin them but because I was forced to try and develop my own methods, lesser coins (still ancients and cool world coins, but much poorer quality) were ruined as I tried all the bad advice given on websites like vinegar paste, electrolysis and the like. These coins were ruined because of people who refused to give advice..but more likely in most cases, they had no real advice to give. Anyway...I started my page yesterday, if anyone has any good information concerning how to properly conserve coins like the pro's, PM me or go to my website and e-mail me, or god forbid post them here on a forum that is supposed to be here to help the collector... and I will give you credit if you like. This saving people from themselves attitude and the assumption that people are stupid, the 'most people dont realize / know' or speaking for all collectors nonsense is just that...but maybe I just have a higher opinion of people than some and I think that if they are able to do something right, if given the right info...they will...and withholding information that will help people conserve coins on a coin site is crazy and counter productive and going against what this site is supposed to be about....thanks[/QUOTE]
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