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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2326832, member: 19463"]Today, while most people here were gearing up for tomorrow's foot of snow, my wife and I went to the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts to see a travelling exhibit on the French sculptor Auguste Rodin. The exhibit consisted of hundreds of pieces that completely muddied my concept of what is original and what is derived in terms of sculpture. Several of Rodin's most famous works were represented in multiple copies - some whole, some in parts. Some were masters or intermediates in the production of the same work in plaster, clay, marble or bronze. The labels pointed out Rodin himself rarely touched the marble or bronze but worked mostly in plaster. Some were unfinished or just trials as if he wanted to see what a nose would look like and did not care a thing about eyes. Some were probably done by Rodin himself while most were touched only by staff or associates tasked with turning his two foot plaster 'thought' into a ten foot bronze statue.</p><p><br /></p><p>All the pieces in the exhibit would be considered originals in some sense but it is obvious that there was no single original work for any of his major works. Comparing this to the attitude we have on original coins not to mention tooled, repaired, cleaned or repatinated items made me really appreciate the coins I love even if none of them would sell for the market value of the plaster left foot of the <i>Thinker</i>. Realizing that our coins are made from dies so might not be considered original and certainly are not one of a kind made me see parallels in the process of a sculpture factory. The concept of casts and aftercasts, electrotypes and outright copies that we find so troubling were part of the process for a sculptor of Rodin's style. In the end, he legitimized the products of his employees or associates signing his name to work that was part his and part theirs. That is where we are at a loss with coins since it is not always certain where official/original stops and other another status begins. II do not know exactly where I stand on some questions raised by this exhibit but I do have trouble calling original a bronze cast fifty years after an artist died even if it was made from parts created much earlier by a number of hands. Our coins were not the work of just one man but a team, a workshop or a mint. I knew that. What I learned today is that a major decorative art from the mind of a famous sculptor involved so many other hands over a period of years but still can be called original. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]471133[/ATTACH]</p><p>If this exhibit comes to a museum near you, consider seeing it but when you are through go look at the coins where fine workmanship is not ten feet tall but ever so much more fine.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2326832, member: 19463"]Today, while most people here were gearing up for tomorrow's foot of snow, my wife and I went to the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts to see a travelling exhibit on the French sculptor Auguste Rodin. The exhibit consisted of hundreds of pieces that completely muddied my concept of what is original and what is derived in terms of sculpture. Several of Rodin's most famous works were represented in multiple copies - some whole, some in parts. Some were masters or intermediates in the production of the same work in plaster, clay, marble or bronze. The labels pointed out Rodin himself rarely touched the marble or bronze but worked mostly in plaster. Some were unfinished or just trials as if he wanted to see what a nose would look like and did not care a thing about eyes. Some were probably done by Rodin himself while most were touched only by staff or associates tasked with turning his two foot plaster 'thought' into a ten foot bronze statue. All the pieces in the exhibit would be considered originals in some sense but it is obvious that there was no single original work for any of his major works. Comparing this to the attitude we have on original coins not to mention tooled, repaired, cleaned or repatinated items made me really appreciate the coins I love even if none of them would sell for the market value of the plaster left foot of the [I]Thinker[/I]. Realizing that our coins are made from dies so might not be considered original and certainly are not one of a kind made me see parallels in the process of a sculpture factory. The concept of casts and aftercasts, electrotypes and outright copies that we find so troubling were part of the process for a sculptor of Rodin's style. In the end, he legitimized the products of his employees or associates signing his name to work that was part his and part theirs. That is where we are at a loss with coins since it is not always certain where official/original stops and other another status begins. II do not know exactly where I stand on some questions raised by this exhibit but I do have trouble calling original a bronze cast fifty years after an artist died even if it was made from parts created much earlier by a number of hands. Our coins were not the work of just one man but a team, a workshop or a mint. I knew that. What I learned today is that a major decorative art from the mind of a famous sculptor involved so many other hands over a period of years but still can be called original. [ATTACH=full]471133[/ATTACH] If this exhibit comes to a museum near you, consider seeing it but when you are through go look at the coins where fine workmanship is not ten feet tall but ever so much more fine.[/QUOTE]
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