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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Vess1, post: 1436275, member: 13650&quot;]I&#039;ve read the whole thread and getting back on track, there&#039;s obviously good and bad points to both options.&nbsp;&nbsp; Pick which one you&#039;re comfortable with, go with it and shut up about it.&nbsp;&nbsp; That&#039;s all you can do.&nbsp;&nbsp; Obviously, there are many safety measures people can take if you&#039;re more comfortable keeping things at home.&nbsp;&nbsp; A good safe is a huge investment.&nbsp;&nbsp; For some, it may make more sense to just get the SDB.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp; The way people talk though, it&#039;s a wonder how there&#039;s any B&amp;M coin shops, jewelry stores, gun shops or whatever in existence.&nbsp; They have far more than most collectors and it&#039;s out in the open for all to see. And advertised.&nbsp;&nbsp; All their stuff is not at the bank.&nbsp; How are there any left in existence?&nbsp; &nbsp; You would think the grinch would have came through and left only wires hanging on the walls at these places.&nbsp; Nobody&#039;s at these places at night when the crooks are out.&nbsp; What deters them?&nbsp; Obviously there&#039;s measures that people can take to secure a place if they choose to and are willing to spend the money. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp; When it comes to safes, you have to ask if we&#039;re talking about a little sentry fire (non-burglar rated) safe or a real safe.&nbsp; It&#039;s comparing apples and oranges.&nbsp; Add on top of this a multitude of factors that have already been discussed.&nbsp; Location being a big one.&nbsp; Something that is easily accessible out in a garage is going to be more susceptible than something hidden that is not easily accessible.&nbsp; In one situation, the whole safe being hauled away to be worked on is a concern.&nbsp; In another, that is not a concern.&nbsp;&nbsp; Every safe should be internally bolted down.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; A flat out yes or no answer to this question doesn&#039;t work.&nbsp; It depends on how far somebody has went with their security situation.&nbsp; Also knowing that yes, with enough tools and time, nothing is impossible to get into.&nbsp; But some are far harder to get into than others, requiring much more time.&nbsp;&nbsp; Which means, coupled with a security system, the time is not available.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;As far as being held up at gun point, what stops them from sending you off to the bank while they wait at home with your family?&nbsp; I would be more worried in that situation than dealing with it on the spot.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you&#039;re nervous about this happening, 49 states have concealed carry laws.&nbsp; You should carry every day if you have the right.&nbsp;&nbsp; It&#039;s coming to IL soon too.&nbsp; But for now, people in IL will just have to have their guns stashed somewhere, where they can get to them, ready to go if they hear glass breaking while they&#039;re sitting at home.&nbsp;&nbsp; At that point, it is not the time to start thinking about how to protect yourself or wish you would have had a gun ready to go nearby.&nbsp; &nbsp; This might mean you need 3 or 4 guns around and available, depending on how big your house is.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;To some people it sounds crazy, but there&#039;s thousands of people who wish they would have been prepared.&nbsp; But it&#039;s too late for them now.&nbsp; Nobody should expect a wake up call to let them know that today a couple guys are coming to rob and kill you.&nbsp;&nbsp; It just happens at random.&nbsp; It doesn&#039;t matter how much or how little you have at home.&nbsp; I have a couple tvs worth a few grand.&nbsp; I&#039;ve got computers and plenty of other electronics.&nbsp; Am I safe as long as I store my collection off site?</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; If you don&#039;t want to be prepared, then it&#039;s the same as saying you don&#039;t care and you&#039;d rather take chances with your family&#039;s safety in order to save money and be lazy.&nbsp;&nbsp; You may as well not wear a seat belt either.&nbsp; You&#039;ve rode in the car thousands of times so you &quot;probably&quot; won&#039;t get in an accident today.&nbsp;&nbsp; Just like you probably won&#039;t get robbed today.&nbsp; But that&#039;s never a 100% known.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; I know some don&#039;t ever want to assume responsibility for themselves but that&#039;s often the difference between survivors and victims.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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