Are TPGs TOO big of a deal?

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  1. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Are you including mundane material? I know you a little bit. You are a serious collector.
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    He is indeed serious........
     
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  4. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Saw this on the news. Unfortunate that no one told these guys that the best place to be during a storm is to stand under the tallest tree around while holding an aluminum rod.
     
  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I do have one hard rule - all classic gold goes in slabs. Authentication. Even if it gets Detailed, it's good insurance.
     
  6. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    https://www.ngccoin.com/resources/counterfeit-detection/

    Click on US coins for the top 50 fakes that get submitted to NGC on a regular basis. Most of the list is gold Indian $2.5 and $5 and altered MMs on the key dates. Kind of an obscure part of the website that I saw the other day and found interesting.
    Was watching a youtube vid of a guy who sent in a bunch of gold $5 to be graded. He apparently buys them all the time. One came back in a flip as a fake. He bought it at a gun show as a real one and didn't notice at the time that the color was off but was noticeable next to real ones. Is everybody here an expert at catching altered/added mintmarks?
     
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  7. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    If I don't have the time to do my own diagnostics, I simply do not buy it, period. I never regret letting a piece go. I am quite aware that doesn't work for everyone. I once won a bid on a piece in an ANA show auction catalog. I went back to the lot viewing room EIGHT TIMES to look for diagnostics.

    I mean, jeepers, I don't even farm out my own legal work! I'm going to rely on somebody else for coins? I've thought of doing my own surgery ending kits. I even have the name - Suture Self.
     
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  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Quite agree.......I've my first Double Eagle showing up in this neck of the woods in a couple of days.......Got it from some folks up in New Hampshire....good honest, reputable.inscrutable. squeaky clean, folks.
     
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  9. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    (On a side note...) Is that still you in the avatar Kurt? If so what happened? Last I was here you looked like a clean cut, tie wearing professional. Now it looks like you either went off the grid or you're a castaway on a desert island. Or it isn't you. The mystery deepens...
     
  10. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    That only goes as far as that they will not sell you something they know to be fake, but not something that is fake.

    That's Mark Hamill lol
     
  11. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    AH!! HAHAHA! Goes to show you how little I know about Star Wars. I don't think I've watched any of them all the way through. I thought maybe life had went off the rails for Kurt. He'll get a kick out of this.
     
  12. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I trust these guys beyond regard......They''d never burn me. We've done business..........
     
  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    When the last Star Wars movie had come out, when I left the theatre some kid said, "There's Luke Skywalker!". I had let my hair get REAL long, and my beard and 'stash ARE a dead stone cold match. Even the facial lines are similar. I adopted it. Now I need wardrobe. Yeah, his right hand is mechanical, and mine might as well be a hook, so there's that, too.
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    So the Avatar and the person match? :)
     
  15. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    lol And there's the story. See guys, it could've been him!
     
  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    When the hair gets long, yeah. I just got REALLY cut back last Saturday. Right now the side hair is basically GONE. I needed it so my Biltmore fedora fits when the weather turns.
     
  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    So you look like Jim Gaffigan?
     
  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Close, but older. More like disturbingly old William Shatner with Luke Skywalker's facial hair. I'd shave if I could get Shatner's gig with Kaley Cuoco on the Priceline ads. The facial fur would FLY! I have the same age inappropriate affinity for her that Bob Newhart's character did on Big Bang Theory.

    "The blonde is r-r-r-really your girlfriend?"
    "Yes."
    "Ya-ya-ya-YOU'RE the genius!"
     
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  19. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    If you feel good about the coin and the people then more power to you. No idea about the coin in question, but generally speaking... subjectivity is the enemy.
     
  20. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Maybe that was the problem.
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I had lightning strike maybe a hundred feet away from me once. Early grad school days. I was out in the parking lot of my apartment complex watching a nasty storm come in, 'cause that's how I rolled, and the lightning was really fierce.

    During a brief lull, I started to feel the hair on the top of my head rise. (Ah, head hair, I remember it well). I might have been in the habit of taking dumb chances with storms, but I knew a good bit about electrostatics*, so I bounded back into the atrium of my building. As I got to the inner staircase, there was a deafening crash -- it had hit the building on the other side of the lot. I probably couldn't have actually called it down by raising my hand, but raising a metal-post umbrella might very well have done the trick. Or, cf. Caddyshack, a golf club.

    * Lightning is the discharge of a large electrostatic buildup. That buildup produces a voltage gradient, eventually strong enough to break down the air from an insulator to a conductor. "Hair standing on end" indicates that It's Happening -- if the field is strong enough to raise your hair, it's very close to strong enough to pull a spark. You do not want to be outstanding in that field.
     
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