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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3285274, member: 85693"]Oh, I like the countermarks. Very nice TICA example, Alegandron - by "very nice" I include the fact the host coins on these are almost always worn slick. I have a couple of these, but yours is nicer than mine - the reverse (dolphin?) is the best I've seen anywhere. </p><p><br /></p><p>My low standards get even lower with countermarks - I've taken to using computer graphic techniques to highlight these. Here is a recent example - "<i>P•P•</i> in 8 x 6 mm oval" on an Augustus as. Very hard to see, thanks to a lot of green verdigris/patina/crud. There are a few examples I found online -it seems to be from Pannonia (where a lot of legionary countermarked issues are found), Pangerl 81. The weight's not too far off on this, so I suspect it was an official mint product rather than one of the puny knock-offs. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for the larger issue of how ugly can things get before it is not collectable, this is an example of one special quality - the countermark - made this worth obtaining. The fact it came in a big lot and therefore cost $1.89 also influenced my purchase. </p><p><br /></p><p>I wanted to post it at some point, and now I have an excuse! </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]868621[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]868622[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Augustus Æ As</b></p><p><b>Imperial Moneyer As with </b></p><p><b>Pannonia c/m (1st C. A.D.)</b></p><p>[unreadable], bare head right ? /[unreadable] III VIR AAA [?]</p><p>around large S [C]. (Attribution uncertain)</p><p><b>Countermarks:</b> <i>P•P•</i> in 8 x 6 mm oval</p><p>M. Pangerl Collection 81.</p><p>(8.29 grams / 25 mm)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3285274, member: 85693"]Oh, I like the countermarks. Very nice TICA example, Alegandron - by "very nice" I include the fact the host coins on these are almost always worn slick. I have a couple of these, but yours is nicer than mine - the reverse (dolphin?) is the best I've seen anywhere. My low standards get even lower with countermarks - I've taken to using computer graphic techniques to highlight these. Here is a recent example - "[I]P•P•[/I] in 8 x 6 mm oval" on an Augustus as. Very hard to see, thanks to a lot of green verdigris/patina/crud. There are a few examples I found online -it seems to be from Pannonia (where a lot of legionary countermarked issues are found), Pangerl 81. The weight's not too far off on this, so I suspect it was an official mint product rather than one of the puny knock-offs. As for the larger issue of how ugly can things get before it is not collectable, this is an example of one special quality - the countermark - made this worth obtaining. The fact it came in a big lot and therefore cost $1.89 also influenced my purchase. I wanted to post it at some point, and now I have an excuse! [ATTACH=full]868621[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]868622[/ATTACH] [B]Augustus Æ As Imperial Moneyer As with Pannonia c/m (1st C. A.D.)[/B] [unreadable], bare head right ? /[unreadable] III VIR AAA [?] around large S [C]. (Attribution uncertain) [B]Countermarks:[/B] [I]P•P•[/I] in 8 x 6 mm oval M. Pangerl Collection 81. (8.29 grams / 25 mm)[/QUOTE]
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