Are these notes errors?

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  1. Write2bfree

    Write2bfree Active Member

    Hi all,

    I couldn't find any information on this so I thought I ask the veterans. On the reverse side of the notes, in a series, is the plate number always in order as Well? The ones I found are consecutive in serial number on the obverse but the plate numbers are different. Is this common?[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Because they only use even numbers, not odd numbers.





    Just kidding.. I don't know :wacky:
     
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  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    it is a star note :)
     
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  5. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    First, the notes are not consecutive serial numbers.

    Even if they were the back plate number may be in order or they may not be. It all depends on what plates are put on the press.
     
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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Mission Impossible to get serial numbers and plate number in sequence.
     
  7. Write2bfree

    Write2bfree Active Member

    Just curious but the last two digits are 29 for one of the notes and 30 for the other note with the first 6 digits being the same numbers. This is not considered consecutive?

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  8. Write2bfree

    Write2bfree Active Member

    So the plate number does not have to be consecutive? The notes can have different plate numbers not in order? I'm just a little confused because I would think that the plate number would be one above or one less the number of the note that is ahead or before it unless they are all stamped at the same time (ie note number 30000001 would have plate number 2 and note number 3000002 would have plate number 3 and note number 30000000 would have plate number 1 and so on).

    Can you clarify please?

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  9. Write2bfree

    Write2bfree Active Member

    Omg I posted the wrong note on top

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  10. Write2bfree

    Write2bfree Active Member

    Sorry let me get the right ones posted

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  11. Write2bfree

    Write2bfree Active Member

    It's crazy...i didn't realize that I had notes with same first and last 2 digits being the same

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  12. Write2bfree

    Write2bfree Active Member

    These are the ones with non consecutive plate numbers and again nevermind...its been a long week...[​IMG][​IMG]

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  13. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    Yes.

    The new SOI presses, used for the 50-subject $1 notes, hold three plates at a time, which keep cycling around the press. The three plates mounted on a press may or may not have consecutive numbers, and may or may not be mounted on the press in numerical order. In particular, if one plate wears out or becomes damaged, it'll often be replaced while the other two remain in use--so all sorts of different combinations of plates are possible.

    The backs of the notes are printed first, then the faces. This means that if you get a stack of consecutive notes, the back plates most often cycle *backwards*. Let's say the BEP put back plates 6, 7, 8 on a press in that order; then a stack of consecutive notes would show back plates 8, 7, 6, 8, 7, 6, 8, ... (Of course, if plate 7 then needed replacing, they might very well replace it with plate 15 or something, and keep running the press with plates 6, 15, 8 installed.)

    Also, the sheets are inspected after the back printing, and again after the face printing; each time, defective sheets are removed. That means that the cycle of plate numbers may "skip" occasionally, when a bad sheet is pulled out. (These inspections take place before the serial numbers are even printed, so no star notes are involved here--the bad sheets are just removed and destroyed.) So in general, there's no way to predict the plate number of one note by looking at the plate number of the next consecutive note.
     
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  14. Write2bfree

    Write2bfree Active Member

    Thank you!!

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    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

     
  16. Coinfrog

    Coinfrog New Member

    Numbers - Thanks for that explanation, most helpful.
     
  17. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    Totally agree.
     
  18. Coinfrog

    Coinfrog New Member

    Stever - Thanks for the "Numbers" input, could not figure out how to reply dicrectly.
     
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