Are there Silver Quarters from 1965?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jeffusa, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. xGAJx

    xGAJx Happy

    I agree 100 %, but the rim proves that it's just worn down. It's not silver.
     
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  3. Mike Reynolds

    Mike Reynolds New Member

    The rim doesn't prove the metallic content of the outer cladding. It could be 90% silver rather than copper/nickel.
     
  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    It could be, except that the has Mint never issued anything with that composition (90% silver over copper). It's one thing to suggest that a leftover silver planchet got mixed in with the clad planchets in 1965; it's quite another to suggest that you're holding a coin struck in a composition that's never been used.

    Far easier to believe (and demonstrate) that the outer copper/nickel clad layer can sometimes age to look like old silver. I've seen it myself.
     
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  5. Mike Reynolds

    Mike Reynolds New Member

    I'm not suggesting that that is what I have, only that the error (whether intentional or not) is possible and looking at the rim does not disprove it's possibility. Easy enough to disprove with an acid test, though someone could have silver plated a 66 as well. My coin has the correct weight for a normal clad over copper quarter. It also has the whitish appearance of worn silver and toning to match that most all other clads do not. It's weight pretty much disproves any possibility of it being clad in silver. You could also do a specific gravity test or swing it on a metal detector to compare readings with other clads to see if there is any difference in the composition of the outer layers of the coin. Also, the 90% composition has been used, it's coin silver, just not on the outside of a clad quarter, that we know of, yet.
     
  6. Mike Reynolds

    Mike Reynolds New Member

    Btw, the coins that do appear silver after 64 are only 65 and 66, that I have seen. What would explain this?
     
  7. Blaubart

    Blaubart Melt Value = 4.50

    The 40% silver half dollars minted from 1965-1970 are clad coins. They are similar to the cupro-nickel clad coins, but the cladding is silver instead of nickel. I can't remember, and I can't seem to find the exact composition of the cladding though. The core is copper and the cladding is silver, but the overall composition by weight is 40% silver. The cladding could be 90% silver.

    There were also 40% silver proof bicentennial quarters. I don't know offhand if they are clad coins like the 40% silver halves.
     
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  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    still wrong, or are you a troll.
     
  9. Mike Reynolds

    Mike Reynolds New Member

    Has the clad composition always been 75% Cu and 25% Ni?
     
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  10. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    That post you quoted is 4 years old. @Treashunt
     
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  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    silly me, I didn't even look at the date


    never mind
    [in my best Gilda Radner voice.]
     
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  12. Mike Reynolds

    Mike Reynolds New Member

    Outer layers of 40% halves are 80% silver and 20% cu. Their inner cores are 21% silver and 79% cu
     
  13. Mike Reynolds

    Mike Reynolds New Member

    maybe they tested the silver cladding on a few 65 and 66 washingtons?
     
  14. Blaubart

    Blaubart Melt Value = 4.50

    Well, it is the US Mint, not the CIA. It should be possible to find out...
     
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  15. Mike Reynolds

    Mike Reynolds New Member

    they could have cranked out a few ...just for friends...
    wouldn't be the first time
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    yes, and there was a second gunman, on the grassy knoll
     
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  17. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    The problem is...you can clearly see the copper on the rim of this coin. That alone is proof that there is a copper layer within your coin. The 90% silver coins were a 90% silver/10% copper alloy...there was no layering, it was one solid metal. The 90% silver coins cannot have the copper layering we are seeing with your coin.

    Now, the clad coinage that began in 1965 can sometimes have the nickel folded over the rim to make it appear that there is no copper layer. But...there is still a copper layer inside. This is when some people start to confuse a clad coin with a silver one...because they can't see the copper. So...on a 1965 quarter, if you can't see copper on the rim it doesn't necessarily mean it's silver but if you can see copper it means with 100% certainty the coin is clad.
     
  18. Mike Reynolds

    Mike Reynolds New Member

    I didn't say that it wasn't clad, which it obviously is. I was talking about the metalic composition of the outer layers possibly being something other than cupro-nickel, like 90% or possibly 80% Ag, which could explain it's silver appearance.
     
  19. Mike Reynolds

    Mike Reynolds New Member

    no, there was only one on the knoll
     
  20. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    oy, nothing like a mis-read
     
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  21. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    I'd say the chances of that are pretty much zero.
     
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