Are specific serial numbers collectible - newbie learning!

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  1. veryberry917

    veryberry917 Active Member

    @paddyman98 - thank you! I wasn't sure. But it was more about the seal being misaligned, than the cut, but maybe it's the same?
     
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  3. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    The print can be misaligned as well. Notes are printed in 3 stages with the back being printed first and the serial numbers printed last. These printings can be days or even months apart. There can be and are notes where the front and/or back printing is not centered, in the wrong orientation or skewed, completely missing, and/or even double printed. These too have tolerances and slight misalignments are normal. Those that the printing is off the note are naturally not in tolerance and are desirable to collectors. The serial numbers and seals of the third printing can be off centered as well and also have a tolerance as to what is acceptable to the BEP. Typically if the serial number or seal covers any other printing on the note, it is not within tolerances and is desirable to collectors. Some error notes have the serials printed upside down, on the back, or many other places on the note with the most odd being the most desirable. Some are missing them all together.
     
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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    All three notes are well within specs so no errors. The second photo appears to have some bleed through which is due to over inking but that too is within limits. To me, and I collect paper as well as coins, would spend them.
     
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  5. veryberry917

    veryberry917 Active Member

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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You’re more than welcome
     
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  7. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    You are very welcome.
     
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  8. veryberry917

    veryberry917 Active Member

    QUESTION: what about portions of really old paper currency?
     

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  9. veryberry917

    veryberry917 Active Member

    I should say these are 2 bills; 1 Two Dollar Confederate 1862 and 1 Five Dollar Confederate 1864, both in torn and very worn and both in two pieces. I will probably keep them, but thought I would ask if there is any value at all.
    Also, is there a currency book for hard money, like the red book for coins?
     
  10. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I believe that is the T42 $2 note which is in the first series of notes printed by The Confederacy. Its not extremely rare and in terrible shape, I would guess no more than $20, most likely less.



    Edited a typo.
     
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  11. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    The $5 is in pour shape as well and even more common than the 2. This one no more than $20 for the novelty, again most likely less.
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The $2.00 CSA (Confederate States of America) is a common note. In that condition it worth about $5.00. Unless there is writing or a signature on the back side. As with all paper money, condition is everything.
    Your note shows this bill worked for a living but a collector, like me, wants a better condition. I collect CSA Notes so here are a few of mine. Some are graded on a scale of 1 to 70. This is a $20.00 Note from 1861. Yours was from 1862.
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    In order to save money in printing costs the paper was very thin and the back was left blank. This note is from 1864 and the back was printed. FE547F0F-8D7E-49F1-995F-54630DA2D7F0.jpeg AC37B02B-C3F1-4AC0-90F4-EEFF5A652394.jpeg
     
  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Any CSA Note with printing such as this one increases its value. The back is blank but there are Interest paid stamps on it. The value on this Note is over $1000.00 as there is a signature on it and the signature is from Thomas Hoge. It’s dated April 21, 1863. This note has been traced to his selling of bricks to Andersonville Prison in 1864.
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  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Here is a graded note. It was given a grade of 63. To the right of the grade are the letters EPQ which stand for a exceptional paper quality. Also note the hand written serial number, 12345, which is a true ladder note. The note was issued on July 25th, 1861.
    T-8 is the note number assigned to this style. During the years of the Confederacy only 72 notes were issued. Counterfeit Notes were also present in circulation at the same time.
    I hope this helps to explain a little about them to you. If you have any others please post them and tag me. :)
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  17. Notaphylic_C

    Notaphylic_C Well-Known Member

    -Those are exceptional examples @Collecting Nut!

    @veryberry917 you ask some great questions. General rule of thumb is that condition to collectors is like location for those seeking top real estate properties. The better the quality the more sought after the note. And if you must have circulated, then you probably should seek notes with good "eye appeal." For some its all about the design being well centred. For others it may be paper quality. After you've been at it a while, you will develop some "deal-breakers" on the issues poorer quality notes have such as: graffiti (ink/writing), tears, rust, marker, stains, staple holes, etc.
     
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  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Thanks. That just a few of what I have. I love collecting them. Wish I could one of each note, all 72 of them. :)
     
  19. Stash0

    Stash0 New Member

    Is there some guideline as what is considered within the border tolerance?
     
  20. Notaphylic_C

    Notaphylic_C Well-Known Member

    -If you're wondering about notes that are slightly off, then you've got a note that the majority of collectors don't want (or avoid). The general rule of thumb: the design of another note must be seen in order for the note to be considered an "error."

    When I started collecting, in my teens (a few decades ago), I was always enchanted by notes that were slightly off. I incorrectly thought that these were special when in fact they were just poorly printed. Collectors sought perfectly centred notes (or equal borders). Fortunately, I got rid of my off-centred notes about 2 decades ago & bought a few notes where the design of the border note can be seen (skewed enough to be deemed an error).
     
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  21. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    If you look at the example below, you can see a sliver of the design in the lower border.

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