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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 4951089, member: 112"]Here's the thing, literally everything on a coin, or not on it if it's supposed to be there and isn't, SHOULD count when grading the coin. And when you're talking about marks, it shouldn't matter if they were on the planchet before strike, or contact marks that occurred after the strike - they should still count because they are there on the coin. In other words, when grading, cause of the marks doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter. The only thing that matters is that they are there. </p><p><br /></p><p>That's how it is supposed to be. But it isn't. And the reason it isn't is because the TPGs <b>choose</b> to do it that way !</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I can get them doing it that way, because they get to choose their own grading standards, as long as they are consistent with that policy. But they aren't consistent at all. And the Frankie posted by physics-fan, coupled with the explanation he was given, is a perfect example of that. That one single mark on the rim, regardless of its cause, kept the grade down. But on the other coins, numerous marks on the rims did not keep the grade down. If it keeps the grade down on one coin, it <b>should</b> keep the grade down on all coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>And it doesn't stop there. They do the same thing with corrosion. On older coins corrosion, even extensive corrosion, is ignored when grading. But on other coins one tiny spot of corrosion can even result in a no grade at all. And it isn't just done with older coins. Coins of value, scarcity, or pedigree - they make up exceptions and don't the very same things they do count on other coins - even from the same date/mint at times.</p><p><br /></p><p>So the real answer to your question CBD, is the TPGs are gonna do what they want to do, regardless of what they should do. Even when their own grading standards say they should not.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 4951089, member: 112"]Here's the thing, literally everything on a coin, or not on it if it's supposed to be there and isn't, SHOULD count when grading the coin. And when you're talking about marks, it shouldn't matter if they were on the planchet before strike, or contact marks that occurred after the strike - they should still count because they are there on the coin. In other words, when grading, cause of the marks doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter. The only thing that matters is that they are there. That's how it is supposed to be. But it isn't. And the reason it isn't is because the TPGs [B]choose[/B] to do it that way ! Now I can get them doing it that way, because they get to choose their own grading standards, as long as they are consistent with that policy. But they aren't consistent at all. And the Frankie posted by physics-fan, coupled with the explanation he was given, is a perfect example of that. That one single mark on the rim, regardless of its cause, kept the grade down. But on the other coins, numerous marks on the rims did not keep the grade down. If it keeps the grade down on one coin, it [B]should[/B] keep the grade down on all coins. And it doesn't stop there. They do the same thing with corrosion. On older coins corrosion, even extensive corrosion, is ignored when grading. But on other coins one tiny spot of corrosion can even result in a no grade at all. And it isn't just done with older coins. Coins of value, scarcity, or pedigree - they make up exceptions and don't the very same things they do count on other coins - even from the same date/mint at times. So the real answer to your question CBD, is the TPGs are gonna do what they want to do, regardless of what they should do. Even when their own grading standards say they should not.[/QUOTE]
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