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<p>[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1590638, member: 41665"]Conder101-</p><p>I stand by my original statement ...Like it or not, NotHaus WAS CONVICTED of three Federal felonies for "passing, selling, and possessing Liberty Dollar coins; of issuing and passing Liberty Dollar coins intended for use as current money; and of conspiracy against the United States." </p><p><br /></p><p>I put "counterfeit" in quotes (many articles didn't) - I don't know if the Feds argued for a specific "counterfeit" charge, as you assert. </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Given a plethora of recent and publicly unfamiliar designs coined by the US Mint, I suppose 'resemblance in design' can now be more broadly inferred by SS, the Mint and the courts. </b>For example, <i>if the vast majority of the general public doesn't recognize First Spouse coins etc</i>., any jury will also be confused what legitimate (US Mint PM) coins look like... and likewise see NorFeds as "counterfeit" (vernacular) in that broader sense. btw I don't know if the Feds ever used that word to make their case; I didn't read the transcripts. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>To you. I disagree. So were there any numismatists on the jury? They deliberated less than 2 hours after an 8-day trial: that's open & shut, chief.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1590638, member: 41665"]Conder101- I stand by my original statement ...Like it or not, NotHaus WAS CONVICTED of three Federal felonies for "passing, selling, and possessing Liberty Dollar coins; of issuing and passing Liberty Dollar coins intended for use as current money; and of conspiracy against the United States." I put "counterfeit" in quotes (many articles didn't) - I don't know if the Feds argued for a specific "counterfeit" charge, as you assert. [B]Given a plethora of recent and publicly unfamiliar designs coined by the US Mint, I suppose 'resemblance in design' can now be more broadly inferred by SS, the Mint and the courts. [/B]For example, [I]if the vast majority of the general public doesn't recognize First Spouse coins etc[/I]., any jury will also be confused what legitimate (US Mint PM) coins look like... and likewise see NorFeds as "counterfeit" (vernacular) in that broader sense. btw I don't know if the Feds ever used that word to make their case; I didn't read the transcripts. To you. I disagree. So were there any numismatists on the jury? They deliberated less than 2 hours after an 8-day trial: that's open & shut, chief.[/QUOTE]
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