Are Norfed sales on the blink?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by fretboard, Dec 8, 2012.

  1. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I started a sale for a California Norfed on ebay just yesterday and I got a question I couldn't believe. Has anyone here heard that fleabay is restricting or removing Norfed sales? :thumb:

    "Has eBay contacted you about removing this item? I was bidding on something similar and it was pulled. I was curious before I started bidding."
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  3. John14

    John14 Active Member

    I was bidding on a short hair last week. Checked my email and eBay sent an email saying the listing was removed for my protection. Aggravating.
  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Apparently the US secret service has requested the removal of all NORFED coinage from eBay. I have a couple of friends who work in the US Attorney's office here and I'll see if they know anything.
  5. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Wow! I appreciate the heads up. Unbelievable. If that's how the SS feels about Norfeds I'd hate to be Bernard Von NotHaus on sentencing day.
  6. mrweaseluv

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  7. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah, had a few auctions/norfeds i bid on pulled out from under me. Won't stop me from getting more norfeds just makes it a bit more difficult.
  8. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    There is a factor of this that they don't consider - they make them all that much more desirable for those collectors that like the black box stuff that is not quite legal or a bit of a grey area to collect. And that is about all I will say about that...
  9. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    My guess is if you don't write NORFED or LIBERTY DOLLAR in the title, the auction won't get pulled. :p
  10. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Apparently this policy has just recently been implemented. I'm glad I still have my small collection of Norfeds, as the price (already sky high) will surely increase. Collectors always seem to pay more for somthing that is hard to obtain. Here's an interesting thread from another forum:
  11. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Man, that was a pain in the butt!!:eek: Under the current circumstances, I ended my sale. I simply heard too much flak from prospective buyers and sellers who were being busy bees. Look at the question below, no sense in having ebay remove it for me. I just kept thinking that I'd rather not be identified as holding Norfeds if I didn't have to. If people would quit with the chatter maybe we could sell them but I doubt it. Now that the Secret Service has them on their hit list and identified them as counterfeits it makes me wonder if they/re taking down names too? You think they will start hitting coin shows for Norfeds? Whatever the case, the price will be affected and collectors holding onto alot of them will undoubtedly make some extra dollars. :thumb:

    "I had one of these listed and ebay pulled it. They said the coins were illegal currency. However, I see many of these listed. I e-mailed ebay with no response. Pretty strange. Mine is a 1999."
  12. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    The forfeiture trial was scheduled to resume Monday April 4, 2011.[SUP][31][/SUP] Federal prosecutors were seeking to take roughly $7 million worth or five tons in Liberty Dollars minted in gold and silver seized in 2007 from a warehouse by the FBI.[SUP][32]

    Sounds to me like the government made a huge stink about it just so they could have $7 million in free gold and silver.

    Land of the free, ya right.
  13. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yeah I bet there's 7 million people who agree with you but we're mere citizens and they are the government. One benefit is in the beginning of this ongoing seizure by the secret service, the price of Norfeds should go fairly high. :D

    I'm curious to find out if the Gov't is gonna prod ebay for names of sellers of Norfeds and send us all letters to hand over our Norfeds. Maybe they will, this has never happened before so we won't know until it happens. More to be revealed I'm sure. ;)
  14. FE21

    FE21 Member

    What are Norfeds? What happened to him? I'm rather new-er-ish-uh-oo-look-a-penny! to coin collecting, so...
  15. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

  16. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    You'll know "Big Brother" has arrived when and if that happens. Also Peter will be getting rung up at about 3AM by the Secret Service demanding information on user accounts at CT.
  17. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    :( The federal jackboot is once angain on plain folks throats.
  18. wgpjr

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  19. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    Very interesting, I wonder if this explains why my Missouri Norfed sold the other day after sitting on eBid for well over a year. Sold for $65 or about twice spot, --or-- if you're a real paranoid like Bernie von NotHaus for 3.25 times face.

  20. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    I believe if you are a collector you can own counterfiet currency. If so, to buy and sell it to another collector should not be illegal. It's the intent to use or pass it as legal currency that breaks the law.
  21. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

    I believe that - in most cases - you can own a defunct counterfeit, but this is too recent. Not the same thing; exercise common-sense here people. Like it or not, NotHaus WAS CONVICTED of three Federal felonies for "passing, selling, and possessing Liberty Dollar coins; of issuing and passing Liberty Dollar coins intended for use as current money; and of conspiracy against the United States" according to the FBI press release.

    I'm a libertarian (smoke your mary-jane and have plural marriage, for all I care) but it's foolish to publicly trade NorFeds if you're avoiding or possibly on another US govt watchlist ..."Teaparty wingnut"? They've already drawn the line, as it were. I say this as someone who been watchlisted before - you really don't need that hassle.

    btw, if you hadn't seen it already, here's a very informative and well-researched piece on NotHaus from April 2012:
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