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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;beef1020, post: 1498440, member: 24544&quot;]While I think this is largely true in most areas of the U.S. market it is not yet true in the large cent/early copper market which I believe coleguy is mainly in.&nbsp; For this section of the market I would argue it&#039;s more common to see raw coins then graded one and the serious collector base is very knowledgeable about grading.&nbsp; It helps that we have our own price guide and grading system which pretty much forces anyone who wants to serious collect to learn how to grade.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Just as an example, the last EAC sale had 529 lots with no more then 20 coins in TPG holders.&nbsp; Two other points about the sale, the average sale price for each lot was close to $700 and there were probably 20 or more coins which in the description read, previously in X holder graded as YY.&nbsp; These are not low dollar coins being sold without TPGing and a significant number of the coins were removed from holders.</p><p><br /></p><p>My distaste for the incentives I see with the grading companies was one of the attractions to early copper collecting.&nbsp; Third party grading is not as prevalent and does not drive the market, many knowledgeable collectors are present, and honest dealers are still the norm.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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