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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 13812643, member: 112&quot;]And that&#039;s as true as it gets. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have tried to explain for decades that the only difference between NT and AT is intent, but there are always those who either refuse to believe or want to argue the point. </p><p><br /></p><p>For example, take the case of coin albums. For many decades, right to and through today, countless numbers of collectors use and have used coin albums. And some of these albums are very well known having produced some beautifully toned coins that pretty much without exception are considered to be NT - by pretty much everybody. But few if any collectors ever used the coin albums because they wanted that to happen. In most cases they didn&#039;t even know it would happen - until many years later. And of course the reason the coins toned was because of the gasses put off by the albums.</p><p><br /></p><p>But what about the guy or gal who deliberately searches out and buys one of these coin albums specifically so he/she can put coins in it and have them tone, hopefully to beautiful colors. And the only reason they do that is because these albums are so well known for doing exactly that. There are those who will say that makes the coins AT.</p><p><br /></p><p>The album is the same, the result is the same, the only difference is intent.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now consider the guy or gal who gets themselves a sealed acrylic box with a few valves installed. They then place coins inside the box, pump in specific gasses through the valves, and in just a few hours the result is colorfully and beautifully toned coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>If people knew that was what was done, pretty much everybody will say those coins are AT. But there is not one person, anywhere, who can look at those coins, or run scientific tests on those coins, and say with any degree of certainty at all that they are different in any way from the coins stored in the coin albums. In point of fact, nobody can ever tell one from the other. </p><p><br /></p><p>Of course they can&#039;t tell one from the other because they aren&#039;t any different from each other. And they aren&#039;t any different because both coins were toned by the gasses they were exposed to. The chemical reactions between the gasses and the coin metals are the same in both cases, and the results are the same, colorful beautiful toning.</p><p><br /></p><p>So now take the 3 coins, 1 from an album that the collector used with no intent to tone the coin whatsoever, 1 from another album where the collector deliberately and intentionally used the album specifically to tone the coin, and 1 from an acrylic box - all three have colorful beautiful toning. And absolutely nobody, anywhere, using any means of any kind, can ever tell one iota of difference between the 3 coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Yet without a doubt 2 of those coins were intentionally, deliberately, and knowingly toned - on purpose. While the 3rd coin ended up being toned by accident, with the collector never even knowing it could happen, let alone that it would happen. </p><p><br /></p><p>Given all of this you kind of have to ask yourself the question - does it even matter whether the coin is NT or AT ?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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