Are coins dead as an Investment?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Derek2200, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. Derek2200

    Derek2200 Well-Known Member

    We all have seen the PCGS 3000 graph.

    Are you in it for the long term? What do you think of paying around a 65 pct premium for a stickered coin when the issue itself is not moving in a substantial positive direction (MS66 generic Saints)?
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Coins have always been dead as an investment.
     
  4. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    If you are approaching coins as an investment, you're doing it wrong.
     
  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Just about everything I have bought has depreciated in value through the years. Especially the stuff that I've purchased from the mint. Coin collecting is just that .....collecting.

    As for investment, I don't think any dealer hangs on to any coin long term. They make their money buying and flipping at the right time. Investing? Fools errand.
     
  6. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    They were never alive. Well, not for me anyway. Unless you're a professional numismatist or dealer, forget it! I don't think you'll ever hear a financial advisor telling you to add coins to your financial portfolio. If you do, I'd be running in the other direction.
     
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  7. Lawtoad

    Lawtoad Well-Known Member

    I agree with the above comments. I do not believe coins have ever been a good investment, if making a profit is your intent. Coin collecting is a hobby. Some coins in my collection have appreciated in value, most have not. I collect because I love the history and the artistry of the coins.
     
  8. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Great place to store a bit of wealth. Not a good place to invest.
     
  9. Derek2200

    Derek2200 Well-Known Member

    I think the period from 1972 to the 1989 crash was basically an upward trend then after that a steady down slide.

    My focus has changed to the areas I like and having a decent store of value.
     
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  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

  11. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Although I often buy coins in the hopes that when it comes time to sell I will make a few bucks. :cigar: I never think of coins as an investment as I hardly ever turn much of a profit! :D That's not what coin collecting is about to me. ;)
     
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  12. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    My coin collecting interests have zero to do with investment.
     
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  13. Hookman

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  14. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    With your budget that you have, buy coins that are pleasing
    and are CAC stickered. Buy these coins over several decades.
    Don't buy copper unless it is a pleasing Red/Brown leaning toward
    brown or a fully brown coin. Buy only the prettiest TONED
    silver coins, ones that just make your jaws drop! Un-toned coins
    are fine as long as they are FLASHY. The same rule for gold coins
    FLASHY!! Your great grand children will be thankful. You on the
    other hand will enjoy buying these treasures and holding them
    till you pass. If you want an investment that reaps profits now,
    I suggest a well balanced portfolio of mutual funds and ETF's.
    Very rarely do collectors enjoy profits unless they are in it for
    the long term, usually 5+ decades. Hopefully the 40 and younger
    crowd will find numismatics as exciting as we do. Make sure all
    of your coins are in PCGS or NGC plastic. Anything else is just
    throwing your money away.
     
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  15. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I wrote this about coins as an investment. It begins with a short discussion of investing in coins in general and ends with more attention to ancient coins:

    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/numis/investment.html

    I agree with most of the above contributors that coins are not likely to make much money, but, I conclude, "Regardless, treat collecting as a hobby to enrich the mind, if not the wallet, and it pays off well enough."
     
  16. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    What a sad state of affairs... nowhere do I see "buy what you like, love, or want"... Also - buy coins you will never, ever actually touch.
     
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  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    MCAGIA... Make Coins A Great Investment Again
     
  18. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Coins -- bullion or numismatics -- are NOT an investment. They are a speculation. They may or may not make you money.

    We can enjoy how they look and play with them, unlike the XOM stock I bought yesterday or the preferred stock I'm buying for mom tomorrow. :D

    When I pass -- hopefully not for a while :D -- my heirs will have a bit of fun, celebrating and cursing all of the dozens of coins I purchased from all different types, taking much longer to value than a simple financial brokerage statement.

    Well, I just did that. I think premiums for Saints is pretty much washed out -- it's nothing compared to a few years ago or earlier this century. So that's good.

    If gold goes to $3,000 an ounce (November ?), my Saints (and silver) probably double if not triple. But if gold falls back to $1,100 I have reverse leverage to the downside.:wideyed:
     
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  19. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    If silver and gold double, so will the cost of food and fuel. They are money.
     
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  20. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Read and heed! Enjoy the hobby. Invest your money elsewhere.
     
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  21. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Don't ever buy from the US Mint and expect to make money unless you buy several and flip them while they are hot.
     
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