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<p>[QUOTE="Vegas Vic, post: 1915659, member: 58810"]So am I the only guy to pick up on this statement? How much are you charging this guy? I would be pissed if I found out I could have cut you out with heritage. This is a $15000 coin. Even if you only charge 10% you are taking $1500 from a guy who could make a few clicks of a mouse. If you own the coin it is one thing . But to complain about dishonest dealers is interesting. Isn't the right thing to do teach others how to buy on their own with the internet instead of brokering coins to people? They could even pay you for their time for classes. </p><p>These net clients of yours, why do they need you? Unless you personally own the coin they could google check eBay and heritage just as easily as you. What value are you providing them?</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the point your making, I see that as the mid future. I think collectors are going to continue the trend of using sites like eBay to cut out the middleman. eBay fees may be 13% but I have not really seen dealers offer 13% back of retail when purchasing coins. I think in 20 years you may have maybe half the number of dealers you do today. You are right some people and some collectors are using web based direct collector to collector sales. These sales are occurring today, and compared to 30 years ago each eBay collector to collector sale is money taken out of a b&m dealer's pocket. as collector to collector sales increase on third party sites that potential dealer profit per each sale is deleted. </p><p><br /></p><p>I'm sure that there are a lot of people on this forum who will freak out about the statement I made that I see third party web sites selling coins from collectors to other collectors bypassing the dealer as threatening. But it is what I see happening. Yes I am aware that many eBay coins are owned by dealers then sold retail. But i still think that the number of dealers supported professionally by the hobby will be significantly decreasing as options for collectors to sell to other collectors increase. Last time I checked you can even sell coins collector to collector here. </p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not saying dealers don't serve a function I'm saying as connectivity increases the need for someone to buy your coin and sell to one of their clients is decreasing as collectors are able to find other collectors on their own. </p><p><br /></p><p>Something like 1 in 3 to 1 in 5 relationships start on online dating sites. This was unthinkable 20 years ago. Is is so unthinkable that we will have "coin dating" sites where 1 in 3 of all coin sales are collector to collector? Dealers will still exist but there will be less of them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vegas Vic, post: 1915659, member: 58810"]So am I the only guy to pick up on this statement? How much are you charging this guy? I would be pissed if I found out I could have cut you out with heritage. This is a $15000 coin. Even if you only charge 10% you are taking $1500 from a guy who could make a few clicks of a mouse. If you own the coin it is one thing . But to complain about dishonest dealers is interesting. Isn't the right thing to do teach others how to buy on their own with the internet instead of brokering coins to people? They could even pay you for their time for classes. These net clients of yours, why do they need you? Unless you personally own the coin they could google check eBay and heritage just as easily as you. What value are you providing them? As for the point your making, I see that as the mid future. I think collectors are going to continue the trend of using sites like eBay to cut out the middleman. eBay fees may be 13% but I have not really seen dealers offer 13% back of retail when purchasing coins. I think in 20 years you may have maybe half the number of dealers you do today. You are right some people and some collectors are using web based direct collector to collector sales. These sales are occurring today, and compared to 30 years ago each eBay collector to collector sale is money taken out of a b&m dealer's pocket. as collector to collector sales increase on third party sites that potential dealer profit per each sale is deleted. I'm sure that there are a lot of people on this forum who will freak out about the statement I made that I see third party web sites selling coins from collectors to other collectors bypassing the dealer as threatening. But it is what I see happening. Yes I am aware that many eBay coins are owned by dealers then sold retail. But i still think that the number of dealers supported professionally by the hobby will be significantly decreasing as options for collectors to sell to other collectors increase. Last time I checked you can even sell coins collector to collector here. I'm not saying dealers don't serve a function I'm saying as connectivity increases the need for someone to buy your coin and sell to one of their clients is decreasing as collectors are able to find other collectors on their own. Something like 1 in 3 to 1 in 5 relationships start on online dating sites. This was unthinkable 20 years ago. Is is so unthinkable that we will have "coin dating" sites where 1 in 3 of all coin sales are collector to collector? Dealers will still exist but there will be less of them.[/QUOTE]
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