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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1915370, member: 26302"]We are closer in agreement than you might think. It seems the class of dealer you hate so much might be the issue. I do not care for them much either. Dealers who try to pawn off damaged coins by quoting greysheet prices, those who overgrade a coin, (even slabs, I hear it all of the time, "its really a 64 in my opinion but NGC was just being conservative saying its a 62"), etc. I even know some dealers who WOULD rip off a little old lady. </p><p><br /></p><p>So yeah, I know what you are saying. I still say, though, that the core of good dealers are absolutely required for this hobby to function. They will never be supplanted by amateurs on the internet. Sure, the internet might be a place to buy common coins, move some morgan dollars, etc. How many professionals, the type of people who can afford a VF chain cent, do you think have time to troll Ebay all day looking for 5 figure coins? Is Ebay dealers, many of whom know nearly nothing about coins, going to be the next Rick Snow's of the world? If someone's entire collecting experience is modern issues or very low priced coins, maybe Ebay will be their main "dealer", but that does not mean this is applicable to the entire hobby. </p><p><br /></p><p>As an aside, I keep wondering when the whole Ebay bidiots overpaying for overhyped new coins thing will come to an end. A lot of it started when PM spiked. At some point these people have to be taking a BATH on all of the overpriced coins they have bought. Ebay used to be a cheap market, a place where dealers only sold if they were desperate because prices were so low. I find myself only able to buy very esoteric items there nowadays, since Ebay is literally double the price a good dealer charges for a good coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1915370, member: 26302"]We are closer in agreement than you might think. It seems the class of dealer you hate so much might be the issue. I do not care for them much either. Dealers who try to pawn off damaged coins by quoting greysheet prices, those who overgrade a coin, (even slabs, I hear it all of the time, "its really a 64 in my opinion but NGC was just being conservative saying its a 62"), etc. I even know some dealers who WOULD rip off a little old lady. So yeah, I know what you are saying. I still say, though, that the core of good dealers are absolutely required for this hobby to function. They will never be supplanted by amateurs on the internet. Sure, the internet might be a place to buy common coins, move some morgan dollars, etc. How many professionals, the type of people who can afford a VF chain cent, do you think have time to troll Ebay all day looking for 5 figure coins? Is Ebay dealers, many of whom know nearly nothing about coins, going to be the next Rick Snow's of the world? If someone's entire collecting experience is modern issues or very low priced coins, maybe Ebay will be their main "dealer", but that does not mean this is applicable to the entire hobby. As an aside, I keep wondering when the whole Ebay bidiots overpaying for overhyped new coins thing will come to an end. A lot of it started when PM spiked. At some point these people have to be taking a BATH on all of the overpriced coins they have bought. Ebay used to be a cheap market, a place where dealers only sold if they were desperate because prices were so low. I find myself only able to buy very esoteric items there nowadays, since Ebay is literally double the price a good dealer charges for a good coin.[/QUOTE]
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