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<p>[QUOTE="imrich, post: 2849046, member: 22331"]As an authorized CAC "collector", I've a very large diverse collection of "tagged" coins, a sampling is attached.</p><p><br /></p><p>I totally agree with your statement, but if you follow the coins of only the 2 CAC approved TPG, the reason may be apparent. I find it more evident especially with scarce coins. I believe if you understand the grading standards, it's more apparent why the CAC coins may be often just average for the TPG grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>With the new market "standards", it appears there's often appreciable "over-grading" by the premier TPG. Thus, I've had dealers view my CAC collections, stating "I thought CAC only tagged coins that exceeded the "grade average". I then show them comparable grade/condition premier TPG coins which have my copyright NOcac red tag on the reverse, that have been rejected. My experience has been that CAC rejects appreciable more than the majority of coins submitted. The CAC coin seemingly meets the believed grade standard for the TPG being evaluated. A prominent long term certifier told me I should return the coins for the payment TPG refund guaranteed. He was serious! I just chuckled!</p><p><br /></p><p>It's of record on this site, when someone requested a posting of CAC coins found objectionable. I posted 4 same date/mint-mark/grade, 1 by each of the "top tier" TPG. It seemingly was quite apparent which 2 were of lesser quality, with ICG the best specimen for the grade, followed by ANACS. There weren't challenges, as the CAC coin was the better of the bottom 2, meeting their average grading standard. The other 2 were better, with ICG meeting a A.N.A. technical standard for the grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>JMHO</p><p> </p><p>[ATTACH=full]675722[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="imrich, post: 2849046, member: 22331"]As an authorized CAC "collector", I've a very large diverse collection of "tagged" coins, a sampling is attached. I totally agree with your statement, but if you follow the coins of only the 2 CAC approved TPG, the reason may be apparent. I find it more evident especially with scarce coins. I believe if you understand the grading standards, it's more apparent why the CAC coins may be often just average for the TPG grade. With the new market "standards", it appears there's often appreciable "over-grading" by the premier TPG. Thus, I've had dealers view my CAC collections, stating "I thought CAC only tagged coins that exceeded the "grade average". I then show them comparable grade/condition premier TPG coins which have my copyright NOcac red tag on the reverse, that have been rejected. My experience has been that CAC rejects appreciable more than the majority of coins submitted. The CAC coin seemingly meets the believed grade standard for the TPG being evaluated. A prominent long term certifier told me I should return the coins for the payment TPG refund guaranteed. He was serious! I just chuckled! It's of record on this site, when someone requested a posting of CAC coins found objectionable. I posted 4 same date/mint-mark/grade, 1 by each of the "top tier" TPG. It seemingly was quite apparent which 2 were of lesser quality, with ICG the best specimen for the grade, followed by ANACS. There weren't challenges, as the CAC coin was the better of the bottom 2, meeting their average grading standard. The other 2 were better, with ICG meeting a A.N.A. technical standard for the grade. JMHO [ATTACH=full]675722[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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