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<p>[QUOTE="Parthicus, post: 3609446, member: 81887"][USER=26302]@medoraman[/USER]: What I find potentially important here is the fact that essentially the same reverse- Gopadshah facing right with inscription referencing Bishapur- is found with at least three different obverses: your coin (obverse derived from Heraclius gold), my coin (Sasanian flaming head/Anahita facing bust), and a coin currently being offered on VCoins by Pars Coins (janusoid bust):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]966464[/ATTACH] </p><p>Based on the very similar reverses, it makes sense to assume that all three types were struck at around the same time and place. So, if the "Heraclius" type was issued for conquered Byzantine territory, why were the other types issued at the same time?</p><p><br /></p><p>Your second coin is intriguing. I would be more likely to agree that that might have been an issue by Khusro II for conquered Byzantine territory (like the Alexandria bronze coinage).</p><p><br /></p><p>Right now, what I really want is to read Gyselen's book, unfortunately I don't have it and it seems very hard to find a copy. Maybe more detailed analysis by an actual expert would help, as well as datable coin finds that could nail down an approximate time when these were issued (early vs. late 7th century). Meanwhile, enjoy this other Arab-Sasanian bronze from my collection, featuring a simurgh:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]966475[/ATTACH] </p><p>And one more thought: I think "Arab-Sasanian" is kind of a misleading term. Bronze coinage in the early Caliphate seems to have been basically a local affair, and even the early "Post-Reform" bronzes show great variability (and quite a few pictorial types!), so it's hardly surprising that coins from the newly Islamicized Sasanian territory would still use lots of Persian imagery, with little or no detectable "Arab" content. I don't know why a clearly Byzantine obverse pops up there; but then again, Byzantine types do show up in some of the Turkoman figural bronzes too, from territory that had not been Byzantine for centuries.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Parthicus, post: 3609446, member: 81887"][USER=26302]@medoraman[/USER]: What I find potentially important here is the fact that essentially the same reverse- Gopadshah facing right with inscription referencing Bishapur- is found with at least three different obverses: your coin (obverse derived from Heraclius gold), my coin (Sasanian flaming head/Anahita facing bust), and a coin currently being offered on VCoins by Pars Coins (janusoid bust): [ATTACH=full]966464[/ATTACH] Based on the very similar reverses, it makes sense to assume that all three types were struck at around the same time and place. So, if the "Heraclius" type was issued for conquered Byzantine territory, why were the other types issued at the same time? Your second coin is intriguing. I would be more likely to agree that that might have been an issue by Khusro II for conquered Byzantine territory (like the Alexandria bronze coinage). Right now, what I really want is to read Gyselen's book, unfortunately I don't have it and it seems very hard to find a copy. Maybe more detailed analysis by an actual expert would help, as well as datable coin finds that could nail down an approximate time when these were issued (early vs. late 7th century). Meanwhile, enjoy this other Arab-Sasanian bronze from my collection, featuring a simurgh: [ATTACH=full]966475[/ATTACH] And one more thought: I think "Arab-Sasanian" is kind of a misleading term. Bronze coinage in the early Caliphate seems to have been basically a local affair, and even the early "Post-Reform" bronzes show great variability (and quite a few pictorial types!), so it's hardly surprising that coins from the newly Islamicized Sasanian territory would still use lots of Persian imagery, with little or no detectable "Arab" content. I don't know why a clearly Byzantine obverse pops up there; but then again, Byzantine types do show up in some of the Turkoman figural bronzes too, from territory that had not been Byzantine for centuries.[/QUOTE]
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