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<p>[QUOTE="Parthicus, post: 3608746, member: 81887"]??? I'm confused here. The last Sasanian emperor, Yazdegard III, was killed in 651. At this point, essentially all of the former Sasanian territory (except for Tabaristan and some Central Asian bits) was under the control of the Rashidun Caliphate. The Rashiduns were then overthrown by the Umayyad Caliphate. Are you arguing that the accepted date of c. 691-714 for the coin is incorrect? Possible, I suppose, but the coin still doesn't make much sense. Why does it name a city (Bishapur) that is nowhere near Byzantine territory, if it is intended as coinage for occupied Byzantine territory? True, the reverse symbolism is very Persian, but that is hardly unusual for Arab-Sasanian coins (including those with dates that clearly place them in the Islamic period). Persians were extremely proud of their culture (and still are, talk to any Iranian if you don't believe me) and continued using traditional symbolism on their coins for decades after the Islamic conquest. Here's another one of their bronzes from my collection:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]966286[/ATTACH]</p><p>I think it's a good idea to question accepted ideas about when and where particular coins were minted, but right now I'm not sold on your particular interpretation. But I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, if you can muster more evidence.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Parthicus, post: 3608746, member: 81887"]??? I'm confused here. The last Sasanian emperor, Yazdegard III, was killed in 651. At this point, essentially all of the former Sasanian territory (except for Tabaristan and some Central Asian bits) was under the control of the Rashidun Caliphate. The Rashiduns were then overthrown by the Umayyad Caliphate. Are you arguing that the accepted date of c. 691-714 for the coin is incorrect? Possible, I suppose, but the coin still doesn't make much sense. Why does it name a city (Bishapur) that is nowhere near Byzantine territory, if it is intended as coinage for occupied Byzantine territory? True, the reverse symbolism is very Persian, but that is hardly unusual for Arab-Sasanian coins (including those with dates that clearly place them in the Islamic period). Persians were extremely proud of their culture (and still are, talk to any Iranian if you don't believe me) and continued using traditional symbolism on their coins for decades after the Islamic conquest. Here's another one of their bronzes from my collection: [ATTACH=full]966286[/ATTACH] I think it's a good idea to question accepted ideas about when and where particular coins were minted, but right now I'm not sold on your particular interpretation. But I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, if you can muster more evidence.[/QUOTE]
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