Anyone want a sculpture of Caracalla's head?

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Any millionaires out there who want Caracalla's ugly mug in their foyer? It's up for auction.


    I'll stick to coins, thanks!

    Caracalla, AD 198-217.
    Roman AR denarius, 2.9g, 19mm, 6h.
    Rome, issue 10, AD 217.
    Obv: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG GERM, laureate head right.
    Rev: P M TRP XX COS IIII PP; Serapis, wearing polos on head, standing facing, head left, holding wreath and scepter.
    Refs: RIC 289c; BMCRE 188; Cohen/RSC 382; RCV 6846; Hill 1586.

    Let's see your Caracallas!
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  3. Ignoramus Maximus

    Ignoramus Maximus Nomen non est omen.

    Not the sort of person you'd like to look up at in your study.

    But the bust looks admittedly better than my coin.:)

    Mine's more a malicious looking court jester:
  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Dude looks like he’s rolling his eyes with how high up the pupils are
  5. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Supporter! Supporter

    I would be shocked if that head sold for 200,000 Euro :smuggrin:. Pictured below is another view of the head. My Tet of Caracalla compares well with the stone head, & I'm guessing both depict Caracalla at the same age. As hotwheels points out, the eyes look strange with that upward gaze o_O. My coin shows the same thing :eek:! Maybe the artists at that time detected early signs of his lunacy :wacky:?


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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I am less than fully convinced that this is even Caracalla. If I were to be buying a bust of the man, I would prefer one from his post-Geta period when he had what we might call more personality. Mid reign Caracalla coins even strike me as a bit insipid. For 200,000 K, I expect a classic scowl. The Louvre has a decent one and has posted the scan of it online for those with 3D printers.
  7. Restitutor

    Restitutor Well-Known Member

    I’d put this in my bedroom :rolleyes:o_O
  8. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Supporter! Supporter

    I agree, a face deeply etched with age shows much more personality than the blank face of youth ;).
  9. Matthew Kruse

    Matthew Kruse Young Numismatist

    I’ll have to take a look at that. I created a 3D printing club at my high school last year. Would be interesting if I could combine coin collecting/history and 3D printing ;)
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  10. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky Supporter

    How much is 200,000 euros in dollars ?
  11. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Dang. I already blew my Caracalla budget for the month :(:

    Antioch - Caracalla AE May 2021 (0).jpg
    Caracalla Æ 16
    (c. 198-217 A.D.)
    Syria, Seleucis & Pieria
    Antiochia ad Orontem

    ΑΥΤΟΚ [Μ ΑΑΝΤωΝЄ[ΙΝΟC CЄΒ], laureate head right / Large S C, A below, all within laurel wreath.
    McAlee 695.
    (3.29 grams / 16 mm)
    eBay May 2021 $5.75 BIN

    Attribution Note:
    There are couple of die-matches to this specimen on acsearch. This one is for both obverse and reverse: Leu Numismatik Web Auction 15, Lot 1436, 27.02.2021

    And I'm with Doug - I am not entirely convinced that head is "young Caracalla." Sometimes the auction houses and museums seem to indulge in wishful thinking when it comes to identifying these to specific people.
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  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    A LOT!
  13. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    Caracalla RIC IV#224
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  14. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    This guy would have been no fun to hang with... crabapple.
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  15. Broucheion

    Broucheion Supporter! Supporter

    $243,000, give or take. No buyer’s fee or shipping.

    - Broucheion
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  16. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    The first bust looks like the image on the second coin (18 years)
    second bust looks like the last coin (29 years)

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  17. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Whatever he looked like like, the brain inside that head was truly sick. Nero was a really nice guy compared to him.
  18. Orielensis

    Orielensis Supporter! Supporter

    Ditto. Maybe others have a better eye for this, but I find it extremely hard to distinguish the boyish portraits of Geta and Caracalla. Young Severus Alexander and Elagabalus look strikingly similar, too. I'd suspect the family resemblance was emphasized on purpose in order to show dynastic continuity.

    Rom – Caracalla, Denar, Rector Orbis.png
    Caracalla, Roman Empire, AR denarius, 201–206 AD, Rome mint. Obv: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG; laureate head of Caracalla r. Rev: RECTOR ORBIS, Sol or emperor standig facing, laureate, holding globe and sceptre or spear pointing down. 18mm, 3.35g. Ref: RIC IV Caracalla 141.

    Rom – Caracalla, denar, Imperii Felicitas (neu).png
    Caracalla, Roman Empire, denarius, 196–198 AD, Rome mint. Obv: M AVR ANTON CAES PONTIF; bareheaded bust of Caracalla r. Rev: IMPERII FELICITAS; Caracalla, Felicitas standing l., holding caduceus and child. 18mm, 3.53g. Ref: RIC IV,1 Caracalla 9.

    Rom – Geta, Denar, Principi Iuventutis.png
    Geta, Roman Empire, denarius, 200–202 AD, Rome mint. Obv: P SEPT GETA CAES PONT; bust of Geta, bare-headed, draped, r. Rev: PRINCIPI IVVENTUTIS; Geta, holding baton and sceptre, standing l. next to trophy r. 18mm, 3.40g. Ref: RIC IV Geta 18.

    At this price, you should be able to get a deal on shipping...
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  19. Alwin

    Alwin Supporter! Supporter

    535-Buste.jpg Wouldn’t this bust OK with my tetradrachm?
    No buyer’s fee or shipping. I buy! ;-))

    CARACALLA, Tetradrachm

    Laodicea, 208-209 A.D.
    12.58 g - 26 mm
    Prieur 1152
    AYT KAI . ANTΩNЄINOC . CЄ, Laureate bust right
    ΔHMAPX.ЄΞ.YΠATOC.TO.Γ. * , Eagle facing, head left
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  20. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is my lone Caracalla. You have to admit that the reverse in interesting. This is a common piece.

    Caracalla O.jpg Caracalla R.jpg
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  21. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Perhaps he was merely getting haircut! :D:troll::eek:
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