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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 728862, member: 66&quot;]Well well well, I thought I was going to be able to tell you just which generation of ACG holder you had and surprise!&nbsp; I have never seen this one before.&nbsp; It IS a very early one but not the first one.&nbsp; It does look very similar to the ACG1 variety listed in the slabbook, but there is a variety even earlier than that one which wasn&#039;t discovered until after the book was published.&nbsp; The one shown here appears to be transitional between those two varieties.&nbsp; That would make this the second earliest known ACG variety and would date it to probably sometime in 1984.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCI did have competing photoslabs but they did not begin operations until 1986 and they licensed the slab shell from ACG.&nbsp; ACG did have smaller non-photo slabs but they came later.&nbsp; ACG also hade photocertificates without slabs in 1986 and very briefly brought back the photoslabs in the early 2000&#039;s (I also have one photoslab which claims to be a joint venture between ACG and ICCS from around 2006 but I suspect it to be an altered piece.)</p><p><br /></p><p>As to the PCGS license with ACG, Accugrade says PCGS did license material from them PCGS says they did not.&nbsp; I haven&#039;t asked Allan to see a copy of the license agreement but I do know that for several years after PCGS began ACG was not slabbing and then they suddenly statert up again.&nbsp; Allan says this was because there was a none competition clause in the contract and the ACG began again when PCGS stopped paying their fees.&nbsp; No guarantee, just hearsay until I can see the contract.&nbsp; (Accugrade did slab very briefly duing that period under the name ASA but stopped because it was thought to be a violation of the contract, but when they resumed slabbing post 1997 it was under the name ASA-Accurgrade.&nbsp; This is per Allen Hagar.)</p><p><br /></p><p>If and when your friend decides to sell it keep me in mind.&nbsp; I would be interested because I don&#039;t have this slab in my reference collection.&nbsp; In the meantime may I use these images, and would it be possible to get better ones?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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