Anyone recognize this roman coin?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Everett Guy, Nov 24, 2020.

  1. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    I seen this at auction with next to no info on date ect. 20201124_230755.jpg 20201124_230732.jpg
    Anyone recognize it?
     
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  3. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    It's 'DIVI AVGVSTSVS,' the emperor Augustus, likely issued after his death, which was when emperors were usually deified. Except, don't hold me to it; Augustus in particular deified himself, on some of his cons --I mean, coins.
    ...From here, I'd be worrying a little about whether it's fake. Except, as usual, there will be some people here who know that much more about all of this than I do.
     
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  4. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    ...Oh, No, at first, I was only looking at the surfaces, but if you look at the sides, you can already see what look like the seam of a cast coin. ...Fake! Fake! Run Away!
     
  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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  6. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Agree that it looks like a cast copy, but just to clarify about the original coin: it's not DIVI AVGVSTVS, it's DIVI F AVGVSTVS. The F stands for filius (son of), so the meaning is actually "Son of the divine, Augustus" and is referring to Augustus' deified (posthumous adoptive) father, Julius Caesar.
     
  7. RichardT

    RichardT Well-Known Member

    Yes. This is a coin advertising that Augustus was the son of a god, the deified Julius Caesar. We can tell by the DIVI F.

    Augustus made liberal use of the connection with Caesar.
     
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  8. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    idk if its fake or not, but i've never seen a coin quite like it...that 70's style haircut spooks me...
     
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  9. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    I just wasnt sure enough to even consider to bid. There for I ask first till I get more info under my belt. It had a 14 day returned garentee authentic but no info on what the date info so big red flag for me. As always I appreciate the info/help.
     
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  10. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    It's kind of weird that someone would try to sell it with pictures as good as that. As if the seller didn't know it was fake.
    ...No, just weird.
     
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  11. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter I dig ancient coins...

    Definitely a fake. Steer clear.
     
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  12. Fugio1

    Fugio1 Supporter! Supporter

    Here is an authentic example of the type
    RIC 171a
    RICI-171a-Lugdinum-Augustus-denarius-blk.jpg
     
  13. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis Supporter

    Why not shop at better sources where you don't have to ask whether the coins are authentic every time? There are plenty of threads here discussing good sources for coins
     
  14. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    I ran accross it looking at other coins, it was ones of those "similar items" coin related that popped up after I got a coin off another dealer. I think it was from a dealer in Germany. I am going to go back and look. I didnt see the dealer on the known fake list but I know some of those guys change their names.
     
  15. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis Supporter

    I'm not really talking about specific eBay sellers but eBay sellers in general. Lots of fakesellers aren't on the lists because the lists require people to both spot the fakes and actually take the time to report them. Some sellers are new, or low volume, or in some cases sell a mix of authentic and inauthentic coins. The best thing to do as a new collector is to avoid sites like eBay. There are plenty of good dealers and auction houses out there that are better places to spend your money.
     
  16. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    I agree. Even for authentic coins in legitimate slabs, especially common types, it's not a good idea to buy on ebay unless you have a lot of experience, because most such coins are grossly inflated in price.
     
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  17. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    I definitely am finding out about those things, I like the auction houses better. Good deals (here and there) and decent shipping prices, even with the 9% auction fee the one place I frequent has been great all around.
     
  18. Nvb

    Nvb Well-Known Member

    Don’t walk, run. eBay is a minefield of fakes and until you have seen literally tens of thousands of genuine coins, don’t waste your time unless buying from an eBay seller who is reputable and well known in the collecting community. (ratings mean nothing and can be faked even more easily than coins)

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