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Alexander II the Emperor of Russia
6 (Dukat) maybe
ЗА НАКИТЪ Б.П. 1905 МЕСИНГОВЪ ПЕНДАРЪ
АЛЕКСАНДЪРЪ II РУСКИ ИМПЕРАТОРЪ
For Nakit B.P. 1905 brass pendant
Alexander II, Russian Emperor
BP Nakit was presumably the owner. I'm not sure it's even a medal. But Alexander II wasn't tsar in 1905.
Could the OP's picture be some kind if reproduction with incorrect image and description?
Can't figure it out, Thought at first the image had been flipped in post processing, but as far as I know Franz always faces right
Lettering definitely looks Russian. I think it is correctly oriented as the date (1905) reads correctly. It's also definitely a portrait of ole Franz Joseph I.
Franz Joseph I or Francis Joseph I (German: Franz Josef Karl; 18 August 1830 – 21 November 1916) was Emperor of Austria, King of Hungary, Croatia, and Bohemia, and monarch of other states of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, from 2 December 1848 until his death. From 1 May 1850 to 24 August 1866 he was also President of the German Confederation. He was the longest-reigning ruler of Austria and Hungary, as well as the sixth-longest-reigning monarch of any country in European history.
His rule extended over a pretty wide territory, some of which was probably under Russian control about the time of the minting of that coin.
And it is a coin, not a medal. Just don't know it's provenance just yet.
More on the extent of his reign:
His official grand title after the Ausgleich of 1867 was: "Francis Joseph the First, by the Grace of God Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary, King of Bohemia, King of Dalmatia, Croatia, Slavonia, Galicia and Lodomeria and Illyria; King of Jerusalem etc., Archduke of Austria; Grand Duke of Tuscany and Cracow, Duke of Lorraine, of Salzburg, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola and of Bukovina; Grand Prince of Transylvania; Margrave of Moravia; Duke of Upper and Lower Silesia, of Modena, Parma, Piacenza and Guastalla, of Oświęcim, Zator and Ćeszyn, Friuli, Ragusa (Dubrovnik) and Zara (Zadar); Princely Count of Habsburg and Tyrol, of Kyburg, Gorizia and Gradisca; Prince of Trent (Trento) and Brixen; Margrave of Upper and Lower Lusatia and in Istria; Count of Hohenems, Feldkirch, Bregenz, Sonnenberg, etc.; Lord of Trieste, of Cattaro (Kotor), and over the Windic march; Grand Voivode of the Voivodship of Serbia."
All the coins shown by you and anyone else are no match to the coin in question.. But it clearly stated 1905 and (6X)..
Post #3 Gives a Translation which states Alexander II
I know it's not Alexander but why does it say it?
It is 100% Russian, as per my translation above. It is not backwards or upside down. But the mixing of Russian, a Russian tsar (from a previous era) and an Austrian monarch makes me think it isn't official...not a coin or a medal. Perhaps jewellery?
Maybe Dude on the planchet is his doppelganger . . . . . . . .
I know nothing, but I am inclined to think that this is a fantasy made for the tourist trade.
The Bulgarian text МЕСИНГОВЪ ПЕНДАРЪ ЗА НАКИТЪ (mesingov pendar za nakit) means BRASS TOKEN FOR JEWLERY (or decoration)
Б.П. is the master initials.
Pendar is some kind of generalized term for coin, and it originates from greek language - πεντάρα or πέντε - meaning "five" (if i understood it correctly).
And it looks like these were used in weddings.
Anyway, if somebody is more interested, then it should be solid starting point for further investigations. Happy googling!
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