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Message:: [QUOTE="imrich, post: 771501, member: 22331"]Thank you for the objectivity in your post, but I believe it's difficult to quantify the relative error levels of the various certifying firms. As an avid coin collector for more than 50 years, having >10 years internet experience, I found the negative internet posts about ACG to be a motivator for determining truth, after receiving, via the internet, many improperly graded "top tier" expensive coins. I finally asked a local dealer, what was the problem with the two espoused preeminent certifying firms that they were so inconsistent. He explained the evolution of the firms, relative to ACG, and I understood. I then started to search for "sight seen" ACG certified coins, and found many that were obviously more correctly certified than some "top tier" coins in my possession, eventually accumulating a large collection. I even created composite obverse/reverse images of rare expensive Gold coins certified by the two top organizations alongside a more correctly graded ACG coin. I have these images available, with the original coins, to be viewed by the subjective critics. The discrepancies are very obvious. THE TRUTH IS, THAT ONLY A KNOWLEDGEABLE BUYER,  OBTAINING "SIGHT SEEN" COINS, CAN EXPECT TO RECEIVE "VALUE". I've also been had by counterfeits that could not be properly detected by others (with correct weight, and Gold content). Thanks again for the post.[/QUOTE]