Anyone here started a $5 Indian Head Gold collection Yet?

Once of twice?!?! :rolling:
Ungraded VF one going on ebay for $3,250!!!!
I think if I were you I would by a replica 1911-D.....
Or get ready to cash out some big dough.

 

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Looks pretty decent for a 61, but it's impossible to tell from these photos.

For a given amount of bagginess, they tend to be a bit tougher on $5s than $2.5s.

Just out of curiosity... was this photo taken with flourescent light ?

 

this is one of my favorite coins. I wish I could afford more of them and I have NO IDEA how to grade them.

Ruben

 

No, taken in my kitchen with mostly natural light. The kitchen light is incandescent. The background is my kitchen white tile table.

 

Numerous nicks and scratches on the reverse, especially near the eagle's neck and back. A long scratch from the rim to the indian's nose and a few small hits on the indian's cheek and neck. just a few too many for a higher grade.

 

what do you think of this one?

 

$425.00

 

Hey Doug...

Yes, I am aware! This is the key!
I know it is expensive and perhaps this will be the starting coin?

I have not made up my mind yet, but I am seriously thinking about it.

Regards,

RickieB

 

Sorry RickieB - I think I contributed to hijacking your thread with my grading question.

I think this is a beautiful type coin and to collect the whole series would be an impressive collection to build. If I had the resources, I wouldn't hesitate!

 

What about the 1929? If you could find one. I believe a set just to 1916, in any condition would most likely be the first and last anyone would ever see here.

 

AU53.

Definite rub on the Indian's cheek. Some obverse dings.

Reverse is better, very nice - almost no nicks, and good strike on the eagle's shoulder.

Fuljenz / Winter say this issue is usually weakly struck in the centers, indicating buckled dies. They also state the mintmark is commonly poorly defined (a la 1911-D).

Judging from that, this coin seems to be better than average strike for 1925-D $2.5s.

 

Rickie, I think this is an excellent set to put together...for a couple reasons. First, the Quarter and Half Eagle gold Indian's I believe are among the nicest designed coins the US has ever made, they are absolutely beautiful so for me that's the first reason to put together a set. Secondly, the design is not only beautiful but very unique in the sense that the design is stamped into the coin rather than out of the coin (I have no idea what to call that but it is really cool). Thirdly, the coin is very challenging to grade...IMHO, the hardest of all American coins to grade so that would be a very fun learning experience in it self I would think. Finally, the set isn't too large. The set doesn't have that many keys but every coin is valuable...and the keys are incredibly so. I think lower MS set would be very doable for the determined collector with the exception of a couple of the key coins (that being the 1909-O, 1911-D and 1929)...and depending on your personal financial position (which is no business of mine) maybe even those are feasible.

One thing though, I don't think a complete set would be complete without a 1915-D issue. You may not see that one in any of the books and there is a reason for that...it is counterfeit. But, they are out there and would be a fun addition to a "complete" set.

So, I say go for it...it would be an awesome project and I look forward to seeing the pics. Also, it might be fun to put together a "sister" Quarter Eagle Indian set too.

So, good luck!!!

 

Very Interesting! How can the cheek get a rub when its an enclused coin. Its in a PCGS slab. Want to know their grade?

Ruben

 

The same way all other incuse coins get rubs on their cheeks. Why would incuse lines prevent rub on the cheek, which is the highest point of the coin ?

Of course !

 

well, because it is below the fields, even the cheek.


Its a MS62 Series 59 Coin 11 7949.62/3451611

Ruben

 

How about this one?




http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/dsc00047.jpg
http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/dsc00048.jpg

Ruben

 

Incuse Indians get rub on their cheeks.

Are you able to touch the cheek bone with your finger ? Yes. Yes, you can.

And it's inevitable that incuse Indians, when in circulation, were rubbed on the cheek.

That's how you separate MS coins from AU coins in this series - by looking for rub on the high points (cheek, headdress feathers, and eagle's breast - which, since they can be touched, get rubbed).

The break in luster is sometimes subtle, sometimes obvious. AU58 coins often slab as MS61 / 62 and vice versa.

This is a classic example of Lehigh's AU64 thinking. In these incuse Indian series, choice AUs are often better coins than the pricier MS61s and 62s.

 

Looks like a nice coin. Can you post a photo with better lighting ? This one seems to have sweeter fields than the 25-D, but it's hard to say from that photo.

 

I'm lucky. Its slabs as an MS, although I don't see and run on it. For the 1910, click the links. They have bigger and brighter picks.

My camera is down at the moment.

Ruben

 

Most people call the design "incuse" but that is a misnomer. A better term may be "incused relief" because the devices (Indian and eagle) are in relief but set below the fields of the coin (incused).

A true incused design would have the Indian's cheek and headdress as the lowest points of the obverse (much like a coin die).

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