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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 959352, member: 112"]MS70 (Perfect Uncirculated) - MS70 or Perfect Uncirculated is the finest qulaity available. Such a coin under 4x magnification will show no evidence of bag marks, lines, or other evidence of handling or contact with other coins. That was published in 1977, ten years before the TPGs even existed, in the first edition of the ANA grading standards. Later on it was changed to 5x magnification. This is where most people get screwed up. They get hung up on the word perfect and will argue to the ends of the earth that perfection does not exist. Well, they're right, perfection does not exist. But it doesn't have too. Perfect is merely an adjective, a descriptive adjective. And what it actually means is the best there is. And this is true with coins. And if you read the grading standards, whether that be PCGS or ANA, you will find that the cover this issue. They explain that true perfection does not exist, but that the 70 grade does exist. It exist because it is the description of the best coins there are - those that are as close to perfect as you can get. Not absolutely perfect - just close to perfect. That's why they use the limting factors to describe the grade - like 5x magnification and toning. Yes, 70 coins can be toned. So the 70 grade absolutely exist because perfection is not required. It just has to be as close as you can get based on the standards listed in the descriptions.[/QUOTE]