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Message:: [QUOTE="Conder101, post: 956622, member: 66"]I agree.  Back in th late 80's it was very unusual for the major services to grade ANYTHING better than MS-65.  Back then if a coin was submitted and it graded as a 66, heaven forbid a 67, it tended to be announced as straight news in the pages of Coin World and Numismatic News.  Back then MS-65 was THE investment grade because you just weren't going to find anything any better.  Today MS-65 is practically considered to be "low end' material.  I see all the 67, and 68 classic material available today and I wonder "Where were all these coins twenty years ago?"  You can't expect me to believe that everyone was holding onto them and hiding them while they sent in their 64's and 65's.  The answer is todays 67's and 68's were the 65's and 66's twenty years ago. I remember in the Morgans, during the first two years of PCGS and NGC you used to see a lot of 60's, 61's, 63's, and very few 64's or 65's.  Then all of a sudden the 60's and 61's disappeared and everything was 62 - 65 with the 64's exploding.  Today the 62's have diappeared to a large extent and most Morgans are now 63 - 67.[/QUOTE]