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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3410997, member: 56859"]I had some success in this Künker auction. The results are still shown as preliminary and based on that I'm certain I won one and lost one. A third bid in play is a probable win but it hammered for 2 EUR less than my max and until I ascertain that no one else submitted the same max at an earlier date, and that Künker accepts off-increment bids, I'm not counting it as mine. Fingers are crossed though <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p>The lost coin is now twice lost. I failed to acquire it in a Pecunem auction in 2013 and once again my bid was too weak <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. Isn't this the most wonderfully bizarre representation of Herakles ever?! I've seen a few even more stylistically degraded version but those versions were too far gone to be fun. This one though.... Alien Ant? Mantis Man? A snow-skiing alien ant-mantis man? Dionysos looks quite inbred as well. I've kept an eye out for one like it since losing the coin in 2013 and was excited to see it appear in this auction. Too bad I lost <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/kunker/318/image00130.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><span style="color: #660066">THASOS-IMITATION. The imitations. AR tetradrachm, 1st century BC Chr .; 16.63 g. Dionysus head with ivy wreath r., Clearly stylized // Herakles standing in front with one club in each hand, two "feelers" on the head; The legend is resolved into a three-row point chain and no longer angular but circular. Auction Fritz Rudolf Künker 236, Osnabrück 2013, No. 3 (stamp equivalent); Dembsky -; Göbl, Eastern Celts -; Kostial -; Lukanc -; Coll. Flesche -. </span></p><p><span style="color: #660066">Of great rarity. Tint, almost excellent </span></p><p><span style="color: #660066">Copy of the auction Gitbud & Naumann 8, Munich 2013, No. 14. </span></p><p><span style="color: #660066">The Herakles on the present piece looks like an alien with a head antenna.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>The second coin was a win... but not for me even though I bid on it. A friend who isn't really a collector expresses interest from time to time. Several years ago he asked if any ancient coins depict African people (African as in the negroid phenotype). There are a few types and I got one for him, a teensy billion fractional from Lesbos. The one he really wanted was the Etrurian bronze with head of African man obverse and elephant reverse. I showed him all examples in archives and there was one which was markedly better than the rest and he really wanted <b>that</b> coin. Well, <i>that</i> coin appeared in this auction. I mentioned it the night before the auction and we reviewed its prior sales prices and comps. Knowing Künker often sees very aggressive bidding and that this coin is rare, I advised him to bid a very high number. The hammer was high but considerably lower than his max. He will reimburse me for the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/kunker/318/image00183.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><span style="color: #660066">ETRURIA. UNKNOWN COIN. Æs, 3rd century BC Chr .; 5.34 g. Head of a black African r .//Elephant stands for r. Rutter, Historia Numorum 69; Vecchi, Etruscan Coinage -; Vecchi, The Coinage of the Rasna -. </span></p><p><span style="color: #660066">RR Black patina, slightly corroded, good very fine. Auctioneer of </span></p><p><span style="color: #660066">the auction Triton XVII, New York 2014, No. 1; the collection Dr. Hagen Tronnier, Auction Fritz </span></p><p><span style="color: #660066">Rudolf Künker 94, Osnabrück 2004, No. 3; the auction Triton V, New York 2002, no. 2; The auction Leu Numismatics 74, Zurich 1998, No. 16 and the auction Sternberg XIV, Zurich 1984, No. 25. </span></p><p><span style="color: #660066">Roberto Russo considered an allocation to the Mint Arretium possible (see Ludwig 22).</span></p><p><br /></p><p>The third coin I won't show until I have it in hand-- if I actually won it![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3410997, member: 56859"]I had some success in this Künker auction. The results are still shown as preliminary and based on that I'm certain I won one and lost one. A third bid in play is a probable win but it hammered for 2 EUR less than my max and until I ascertain that no one else submitted the same max at an earlier date, and that Künker accepts off-increment bids, I'm not counting it as mine. Fingers are crossed though :). The lost coin is now twice lost. I failed to acquire it in a Pecunem auction in 2013 and once again my bid was too weak :(. Isn't this the most wonderfully bizarre representation of Herakles ever?! I've seen a few even more stylistically degraded version but those versions were too far gone to be fun. This one though.... Alien Ant? Mantis Man? A snow-skiing alien ant-mantis man? Dionysos looks quite inbred as well. I've kept an eye out for one like it since losing the coin in 2013 and was excited to see it appear in this auction. Too bad I lost :(. [IMG]https://www.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/kunker/318/image00130.jpg[/IMG] [COLOR=#660066]THASOS-IMITATION. The imitations. AR tetradrachm, 1st century BC Chr .; 16.63 g. Dionysus head with ivy wreath r., Clearly stylized // Herakles standing in front with one club in each hand, two "feelers" on the head; The legend is resolved into a three-row point chain and no longer angular but circular. Auction Fritz Rudolf Künker 236, Osnabrück 2013, No. 3 (stamp equivalent); Dembsky -; Göbl, Eastern Celts -; Kostial -; Lukanc -; Coll. Flesche -. Of great rarity. Tint, almost excellent Copy of the auction Gitbud & Naumann 8, Munich 2013, No. 14. The Herakles on the present piece looks like an alien with a head antenna.[/COLOR] The second coin was a win... but not for me even though I bid on it. A friend who isn't really a collector expresses interest from time to time. Several years ago he asked if any ancient coins depict African people (African as in the negroid phenotype). There are a few types and I got one for him, a teensy billion fractional from Lesbos. The one he really wanted was the Etrurian bronze with head of African man obverse and elephant reverse. I showed him all examples in archives and there was one which was markedly better than the rest and he really wanted [B]that[/B] coin. Well, [I]that[/I] coin appeared in this auction. I mentioned it the night before the auction and we reviewed its prior sales prices and comps. Knowing Künker often sees very aggressive bidding and that this coin is rare, I advised him to bid a very high number. The hammer was high but considerably lower than his max. He will reimburse me for the coin. [IMG]https://www.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/kunker/318/image00183.jpg[/IMG] [COLOR=#660066]ETRURIA. UNKNOWN COIN. Æs, 3rd century BC Chr .; 5.34 g. Head of a black African r .//Elephant stands for r. Rutter, Historia Numorum 69; Vecchi, Etruscan Coinage -; Vecchi, The Coinage of the Rasna -. RR Black patina, slightly corroded, good very fine. Auctioneer of the auction Triton XVII, New York 2014, No. 1; the collection Dr. Hagen Tronnier, Auction Fritz Rudolf Künker 94, Osnabrück 2004, No. 3; the auction Triton V, New York 2002, no. 2; The auction Leu Numismatics 74, Zurich 1998, No. 16 and the auction Sternberg XIV, Zurich 1984, No. 25. Roberto Russo considered an allocation to the Mint Arretium possible (see Ludwig 22).[/COLOR] The third coin I won't show until I have it in hand-- if I actually won it![/QUOTE]
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