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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;sylvester, post: 5115, member: 708&quot;]I know it took me a minute or three to see the portrait the first time in the coin shop, and the S of &#039;STEIFNE R&#039; is still there, as for the reverse the letters &#039;...CARD ON SCA...&#039; which should be RICARD ON SCA or SCIFTE = Richard of Shaftesbury. Which is a rare mint, and the coin itself is a good en because you can just make out the mint, on 60 per cent + you can&#039;t make the mints out at all.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I do like those, something else i also love about hammered coins is the way in which designs get copied from country to country, if you look at the reverse of the second one and then compare it to an English Groat they are of the same overall design. I&#039;d hazard a guess that the French Gross? were of the same kind of style... (but i might be wrong cos i haven&#039;t seen any pictures of one for a while)</p><p><br /></p><p>And in response to GD&#039;s comments, i just love chasing these weird and hard coins to find! Half of the enjoyment of the hobby is in the thrill of the chase. Some collectors get the same thing from change searching, i am however not in a position to do that, so i go scouting through coin lists and shops for elusive coins!</p><p><br /></p><p>Syl.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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