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Message:: [QUOTE="satootoko, post: 135143, member: 669"]Get that chip off your shoulder my young friend. No one said that any of the coins we haven't see are counterfeits.  Offhand I'd say the Euros are all genuine simply because they have not been very heavily counterfeited. You asked our opinions about 5 cons - we have given our collective opinion that those 5 specific coins are more likely than not counterfeits.  We have also given you the basis of our opinions.  The only basis you have given for believing them genuine is that your grandfather bought them a long time ago.  Well, I have a few coins that I bought a long time ago, believing them genuine, which I now know are fake.  That doesn't make me stupid, it proves that I was duped before I developed enough expertise to spot them. I also have a few counterfeits that I bought fully knowing what they were, for educational purposes and to stick in album positions where I am not likely to ever find genuine examples in my price range.  I paid about $25 for one that can almost pass as a genuine $125,000 coin. Your grandfather might have bought fakes for either of those reasons, and no one here is critical of his actions.[/QUOTE]