Any help identifying this gold coin much appreciated...

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Two Dogs, Mar 9, 2017.

  1. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    The words in Cyrilic translate to "Elissa" and "Polti," both women's names Gold coin obv.jpg gold coin rev.jpg
     
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  3. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    It is not Elissa. It is Elisabet.
     
  4. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    Thank you. Someone in Bulgaria translated it for me as Elissa...I guess there's another translation, Elisabet.
     
  5. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the tip on Elizabet. It helped me figure out the answer:
    Gold Poltina (1/2 Ruble) of Elizabeth. 1756.
    Obverse: Bust of Elizabeth. (Elizabeth Petrovna Romanov ruled from 1741 to 1762)
    Reverse: Double headed eagle and legend in russian.
     
  6. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Well, it was split into two. Elisa on the left and Betimi on the right. Combines to Elisabetimi, which is nothing more than a declension of Elisabeth.

    In the same way Poltina 1775 is split after the i.

    The coin is not the same as the only 1775 poltina listed in Krause, which is actually a silver coin. So I am not sure what you actually have.
     
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  7. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    The surface looks very pitted. Cast ?
     
  8. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Sakata. That makes sense. The date is 1756, not 1775. I think 1756 was the first year for the gold Poltina.
     
  9. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    I noticed the pitting. I've only had this coin for a few hours, so I'm just trying to learn everything about it.
     
  10. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Oops! Sorry, my mistake on the date. I had open the reply window and was going from memory. Here is the catalog info for your coin. There is also a C#21.2, similarly priced, but it is hard to know which it is from your pictures.

    C# 21.1
    Denomination Poltina (1/2 Rouble)
    Country Russia
    Government Empire
    Ruler Elizabeth
    Coinage Type Standard Coinage
    Composition Gold
    Fineness 0.917
    Weight 0.81 g 0.0239 oz AGW
    Description Obverse Crowned bust right
    Description Reverse Crowned monogram
    Notes Crown varieties.

    Mintages & Price Information

    Coin Mintage VG FINE VF XF UNC
    1756 22,000 $120 $500 $2,000 $4,000 $8,500
     
  11. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    Thank you for this information! Do you have an opinion on the grade? Maybe "fine"?
     
  12. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Actually, I just zoomed in on your picture to try to answer your question and found that I had misread the observe. It says Elizabet, IMP. In other words Empress Elizabeth. As for the grade, I think better pictures are needed, but I would think better than Fine. Others with more experience of grading coins should chime in.
     
  13. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Lots of Russian and even Soviet coins are subject to forgeries - you can find them in bazaars very easily in Russia and the former USSR.
     
  14. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    That's not surprising to hear. Thanks for the input. I'll have to show this coin to someone who knows their stuff.
     
  15. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    This is not genuine. You can look up examples under "Russia 1756 poltina gold" in google images.
     
  16. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

    Thanks, would not be a surprise to learn that it's fake.
     
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