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<p>[QUOTE="cmezner, post: 5427148, member: 87809"]Sharing some comments about the Agrippa - Neptun As that I find very interesting:</p><p><br /></p><p>Historically, why would Caligula want M. Agrippa on an obverse of a coin that was struck in bucket full’s according to the percentage extant/found in his short almost 4-year reign? Why would Tiberius want to have Agrippa on these coins for the years 14-37 AD, which with the percentage of coins extant for the Rome issue alone makes more sense. </p><p>Sydenham has already urged in 1917 that Caligula's reign was too short for so vast an issue, and after the publication of Sutherlands book, Carl Kuthmann argued in favor of attributing the whole issue to the reign of Tiberius, other Aes issues being, in his view, ample in number and size to fill Caligula's reign. (Schweizer Muenzblatter 4 1954 73-7). He suggested that the coins of Caesaraugusta, which Sutherland gave as his example of coins reproducing the design of Agrippa Aes, were probably struck not under Caligula, as Sutherland held, but under Tiberius in AD 37. He also suggested that the reign of Tiberius is the most likely historical context for this advertising of Agrippa, since there was a strong personal tie, through Vipsania, between Agrippa and Tiberius (CE Stevens has quoted Velleius 2. 127). But by the fact that Caligula was Agrippa's grandson, Mattingly has said in conversations, " that he still holds these historic considerations as weightier than the numismatic arguments against inception under Tiberius.” He believes that the bulk, at least, of this issue was produced between 22- 31 AD. S. Jameson, however, has argued, on the evidence of the die axis and of hybrids that occur, that one of these 3 groups into which she believes the issue can be divided began to be produced in about 22-23 AD.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cmezner, post: 5427148, member: 87809"]Sharing some comments about the Agrippa - Neptun As that I find very interesting: Historically, why would Caligula want M. Agrippa on an obverse of a coin that was struck in bucket full’s according to the percentage extant/found in his short almost 4-year reign? Why would Tiberius want to have Agrippa on these coins for the years 14-37 AD, which with the percentage of coins extant for the Rome issue alone makes more sense. Sydenham has already urged in 1917 that Caligula's reign was too short for so vast an issue, and after the publication of Sutherlands book, Carl Kuthmann argued in favor of attributing the whole issue to the reign of Tiberius, other Aes issues being, in his view, ample in number and size to fill Caligula's reign. (Schweizer Muenzblatter 4 1954 73-7). He suggested that the coins of Caesaraugusta, which Sutherland gave as his example of coins reproducing the design of Agrippa Aes, were probably struck not under Caligula, as Sutherland held, but under Tiberius in AD 37. He also suggested that the reign of Tiberius is the most likely historical context for this advertising of Agrippa, since there was a strong personal tie, through Vipsania, between Agrippa and Tiberius (CE Stevens has quoted Velleius 2. 127). But by the fact that Caligula was Agrippa's grandson, Mattingly has said in conversations, " that he still holds these historic considerations as weightier than the numismatic arguments against inception under Tiberius.” He believes that the bulk, at least, of this issue was produced between 22- 31 AD. S. Jameson, however, has argued, on the evidence of the die axis and of hybrids that occur, that one of these 3 groups into which she believes the issue can be divided began to be produced in about 22-23 AD.[/QUOTE]
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