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<p>[QUOTE="Finn235, post: 3666894, member: 98035"]To further illustrate my point about CNG photos, here are the contents of another lot from the same auction.</p><p><br /></p><p>Description: "BI Tetradrachms of Alexandria (4) // Various bronze issues (9). Fine to VF."</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]986023[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]986024[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>From my experience, "Fine" in CNG terms usually means "corroded almost beyond recognition" - I see VF to EF here. The lot was estimated at $150 and arranged in such a way that the majority of the "good" ones weren't visible in the photo. I only bought it because I spotted the Messalina tet; once again, this is easily worth double what I paid, and probably would have fetched triple if they just laid the coins out like this.</p><p><br /></p><p>For those curious:</p><p>Top row - </p><p>Nero / Poppaea Alexandria billon tetradrachm, Year 10</p><p>Macrinus AE from Marcianopolis</p><p>Maximus Caesar AE from Perge (Unlisted? Discussion here: <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/id-help-maximus-caesar-provincial-perge-unlisted.345119/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/id-help-maximus-caesar-provincial-perge-unlisted.345119/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/id-help-maximus-caesar-provincial-perge-unlisted.345119/</a>)</p><p>Augustus/Agrippa AE Dupondius, Nemausus</p><p><br /></p><p>Middle -</p><p>Tranquillina AE from Deultum, Thrace</p><p>Diadumenian AE from Marcianopolis</p><p>Augustus AE from Philippi</p><p>Pseudo-Autonomous AE from Philippi</p><p>Diadumenian AE from Nikopolis ad Istrum</p><p><br /></p><p>Bottom - </p><p>Nero / Poppaea Alexandria billon tetradrachm, Year 11</p><p>Kingdom of Thrace, Augustus / Rhoemetalkes & Pythodoris</p><p>Nero / Claudia Octavia Alexandria billon tetradrachm, Year 3</p><p>Claudius / Messalina Alexandria billon tetradrachm, Year 3</p><p><br /></p><p>Would it have been in the consignor's best interest to pay $520 in fees to consign these individually? Probably not. Fortunately for this seller, the Messalina side of the Claudius tet was visible, as well as enough to ID both Poppaea tets and the Nemausus dupondius. Without those visible, this lot could have sold for the $150 estimate, or even lower. The Octavia tet however was not visible, and neither was the Maximus.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Finn235, post: 3666894, member: 98035"]To further illustrate my point about CNG photos, here are the contents of another lot from the same auction. Description: "BI Tetradrachms of Alexandria (4) // Various bronze issues (9). Fine to VF." [ATTACH=full]986023[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]986024[/ATTACH] From my experience, "Fine" in CNG terms usually means "corroded almost beyond recognition" - I see VF to EF here. The lot was estimated at $150 and arranged in such a way that the majority of the "good" ones weren't visible in the photo. I only bought it because I spotted the Messalina tet; once again, this is easily worth double what I paid, and probably would have fetched triple if they just laid the coins out like this. For those curious: Top row - Nero / Poppaea Alexandria billon tetradrachm, Year 10 Macrinus AE from Marcianopolis Maximus Caesar AE from Perge (Unlisted? Discussion here: [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/id-help-maximus-caesar-provincial-perge-unlisted.345119/[/URL]) Augustus/Agrippa AE Dupondius, Nemausus Middle - Tranquillina AE from Deultum, Thrace Diadumenian AE from Marcianopolis Augustus AE from Philippi Pseudo-Autonomous AE from Philippi Diadumenian AE from Nikopolis ad Istrum Bottom - Nero / Poppaea Alexandria billon tetradrachm, Year 11 Kingdom of Thrace, Augustus / Rhoemetalkes & Pythodoris Nero / Claudia Octavia Alexandria billon tetradrachm, Year 3 Claudius / Messalina Alexandria billon tetradrachm, Year 3 Would it have been in the consignor's best interest to pay $520 in fees to consign these individually? Probably not. Fortunately for this seller, the Messalina side of the Claudius tet was visible, as well as enough to ID both Poppaea tets and the Nemausus dupondius. Without those visible, this lot could have sold for the $150 estimate, or even lower. The Octavia tet however was not visible, and neither was the Maximus.[/QUOTE]
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