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<p>[QUOTE="TypeCoin971793, post: 4088023, member: 78244"]Nice collection!</p><p><br /></p><p>Do you have a particular fondness for the Xing types? They are not common, and generally collectors will have far more of the H-1.9-1.11 and “Jun” types than the Xing coins. Of course, there is nothing wrong with having a bunch of them; it’s just odd to me that there are so many relative to the other types.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It isn’t. It is too heavy. They consistently weigh less than 2g and are rather thin.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>There’s some nice examples on eBay being sold by TomTangMu and asean_coins_wholesaler. They are all genuine.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, I have studied this type extensively and can say with 100% certainty that the inscription is NOT Tang Ge Liu Zhu. The problem with this type is that the inscription is so inconsistent. However, there are two attributes often seen in the inscription, and coins which have these two attributes are remarkably consistent. I believe the inscription reads 夂土之本, or “Foundation of the Earth”. The archaic forms of these characters match the inscription precisely.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>They are surprisingly not the rarest, despite what Hartill says (at least in the Western market). Maybe a large hoard has been discovered and dispersed. Other than the three common types (H-1.4-1.6, 1.9-1.11, and 1.12), all the others are rarer. There are at least 4 that are so rare that they aren’t even mentioned in Hartill.</p><p><br /></p><p>Their weight is truly puzzling. There are some 1.4 that are as heavy, and the H-1.14 issues are of a similar weight, but the Xing types are consistently 4-5g. My hypothesis is that they were made for trade with the state if Han, but I would have to research it further.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It looks possibly ancient, but I have a fake of this type. I agree with your attribution. Since you have it in hand, compare it to known genuine examples. The inscription is incredibly consistent.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is my collection of them. I am missing the H-1.15 and 1.18 varieties. I am watching the auctions in case they show up.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1065184[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>H-1.16 can be divided into two types. From the Jeff Young collection:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1065186[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1065185[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a super-rare type that often gets confused with the “Yong” type (though neither are in Hartill). I have only seen 2 of this variety.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1065193[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1065194[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>And lastly a page from an old reference which shows a few more types, some I have not seen a physical coin of.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1065192[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TypeCoin971793, post: 4088023, member: 78244"]Nice collection! Do you have a particular fondness for the Xing types? They are not common, and generally collectors will have far more of the H-1.9-1.11 and “Jun” types than the Xing coins. Of course, there is nothing wrong with having a bunch of them; it’s just odd to me that there are so many relative to the other types. It isn’t. It is too heavy. They consistently weigh less than 2g and are rather thin. There’s some nice examples on eBay being sold by TomTangMu and asean_coins_wholesaler. They are all genuine. However, I have studied this type extensively and can say with 100% certainty that the inscription is NOT Tang Ge Liu Zhu. The problem with this type is that the inscription is so inconsistent. However, there are two attributes often seen in the inscription, and coins which have these two attributes are remarkably consistent. I believe the inscription reads 夂土之本, or “Foundation of the Earth”. The archaic forms of these characters match the inscription precisely. They are surprisingly not the rarest, despite what Hartill says (at least in the Western market). Maybe a large hoard has been discovered and dispersed. Other than the three common types (H-1.4-1.6, 1.9-1.11, and 1.12), all the others are rarer. There are at least 4 that are so rare that they aren’t even mentioned in Hartill. Their weight is truly puzzling. There are some 1.4 that are as heavy, and the H-1.14 issues are of a similar weight, but the Xing types are consistently 4-5g. My hypothesis is that they were made for trade with the state if Han, but I would have to research it further. It looks possibly ancient, but I have a fake of this type. I agree with your attribution. Since you have it in hand, compare it to known genuine examples. The inscription is incredibly consistent. Here is my collection of them. I am missing the H-1.15 and 1.18 varieties. I am watching the auctions in case they show up. [ATTACH=full]1065184[/ATTACH] H-1.16 can be divided into two types. From the Jeff Young collection: [ATTACH=full]1065186[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1065185[/ATTACH] Here is a super-rare type that often gets confused with the “Yong” type (though neither are in Hartill). I have only seen 2 of this variety. [ATTACH=full]1065193[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1065194[/ATTACH] And lastly a page from an old reference which shows a few more types, some I have not seen a physical coin of. [ATTACH=full]1065192[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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