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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 204104, member: 112"]When I was talking about color, I wasn't talking about your coin but the one I posted a pic of. Yes, I would agree, your coin is Red. But a Proof it's not. For one thing, look at the surface of the fields. They have the orange peel effect which is attributed to a coin being struck with a worn die. Proofs don't have this. Another thing would be the legends. Look at LIBERTY in particular, see how the letters are somewhat indistinct on the inside corners and curves. Again this is indicative of being struck with a worn die. And as I have shown the coin is somewhat weakly struck as compared to a well struck example. But Proof coins are always struck at least twice, which results in very well struck coin and why Proofs have such sharp clear rims and well defined legends and devices. And since they only struck a little over 1000 Proofs in 1916, the dies would not be worn. Lastly, the 1916 Proof cents were struck with a matte finish, your coin does not have a matte finish. Now, I am not trying to denigrate your coin in any way. You asked a question relating to grade and I offered my opinion and the reasons for it. All I have to go on is the pic you provided, you however have the con in hand. So you may well be right that the coin grades higher than I think it does based on the pics. But I see nothing in the pics that indicates it should, of course that is merely my opinion.[/QUOTE]