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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 5412520, member: 110350"]In the [USER=103829]@Jochen1[/USER] thread I posted yesterday, [USER=82322]@Ed Snible[/USER] posted another pre-Imperial coin -- not from Antioch -- with a reverse showing Tyche and Orontes:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-so-called-tyche-of-antioch.334772/#post-3779732" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-so-called-tyche-of-antioch.334772/#post-3779732">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-so-called-tyche-of-antioch.334772/#post-3779732</a></p><p><br /></p><p>"[USER=103829]@Jochen1[/USER] your coins look great, especially that Tigranes II.</p><p><br /></p><p>Tarsos had a very similar Tyche depiction. That Tyche is holding poppies and wheat, and standing upon a different river-god, Kyndos.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234579[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Cilicia, Tarsos, 164-27 BC, AE26, 13.54g</p><p>Obv: ΤΑΡΣΕΩΝ / ΜΑΞΙΜΟΥ ΝΙΚΟ-ΛΑΟΝ; Zeus seated left, holding Nike with wreath and staff.</p><p>Rev: ΟΡΤΥΓΟΘΗ ΡΑ; Tyche seated right on stool, holding poppy and corn-ears, river-god Kyndos swimming right below.</p><p>Ref: SNG Levante 984, SNG Paris 1387</p><p>ex-Stacks/Coin Galleries April 2005, lot 135</p><p><br /></p><p>I can't recall which catalog gave me the date of "164-27 BC" that I am using here. Probably I combined the earliest and latest dates from conflicting catalogs. I am not sure if this coin is earlier or later than your Tigranes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Given how the arm is broken off I don't know how Visconti determined the statue is the Antioch version with palm and not the Tarsos version with poppy.</p><p><br /></p><p>Tyche represents the local town. For Tarsos, the city's slogan might have been "come for the wheat, stay for the opium (?) poppies."</p><p><br /></p><p>So it seems that the depiction of Tyche holding wheat and poppies (instead of a palm branch) started out in another city, Tarsos, at least a couple of hundred years before it first appeared on coins of Antioch during the reign of Trajan. (See above.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 5412520, member: 110350"]In the [USER=103829]@Jochen1[/USER] thread I posted yesterday, [USER=82322]@Ed Snible[/USER] posted another pre-Imperial coin -- not from Antioch -- with a reverse showing Tyche and Orontes: [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-so-called-tyche-of-antioch.334772/#post-3779732[/URL] "[USER=103829]@Jochen1[/USER] your coins look great, especially that Tigranes II. Tarsos had a very similar Tyche depiction. That Tyche is holding poppies and wheat, and standing upon a different river-god, Kyndos. [ATTACH=full]1234579[/ATTACH] Cilicia, Tarsos, 164-27 BC, AE26, 13.54g Obv: ΤΑΡΣΕΩΝ / ΜΑΞΙΜΟΥ ΝΙΚΟ-ΛΑΟΝ; Zeus seated left, holding Nike with wreath and staff. Rev: ΟΡΤΥΓΟΘΗ ΡΑ; Tyche seated right on stool, holding poppy and corn-ears, river-god Kyndos swimming right below. Ref: SNG Levante 984, SNG Paris 1387 ex-Stacks/Coin Galleries April 2005, lot 135 I can't recall which catalog gave me the date of "164-27 BC" that I am using here. Probably I combined the earliest and latest dates from conflicting catalogs. I am not sure if this coin is earlier or later than your Tigranes. Given how the arm is broken off I don't know how Visconti determined the statue is the Antioch version with palm and not the Tarsos version with poppy. Tyche represents the local town. For Tarsos, the city's slogan might have been "come for the wheat, stay for the opium (?) poppies." So it seems that the depiction of Tyche holding wheat and poppies (instead of a palm branch) started out in another city, Tarsos, at least a couple of hundred years before it first appeared on coins of Antioch during the reign of Trajan. (See above.)[/QUOTE]
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