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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ian, post: 34520, member: 283&quot;]I&#039;m with you on that score Syl.&nbsp; The Noble had a weight of 108 grains. The Ryal (aka `Rose Noble&#039;) had a weight of 120 grains.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The Angel had a weight of 80 grains and a value of 6/8d. That&#039;s the exact same weight as the Half Ryal (which was worth 5/-). Hence I presume that the Angel was introduced at 6/8d either because the half Ryal&#039;s gold value had become worth more than its issue value or there was rampant inflation (effectively both) <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The Rose Ryal of James I of Britain had an original issue value of 30/-, but by 1612 the value had risen to 33/-. By the third coinage (1619-25) it&#039;s weight had been dropped to 196.5 grains and face value returned to 30/-.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sticking with James 1, the Angel had an issue value of 10/- . That was 11/- by 1612. The third coinage saw a smaller coin (reduced dimension and weight) returning the value back to 10/-. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The Laurel had a value of 20/- and (as a 3rd coinage coin) was minted presumably to replace the earlier `Sovereign&#039; (?) The Half Laurel (10/-) appears to have circulated contemporaneously with the Angel, but no doubt there would also have been Half Sovereigns around at the same time too.&nbsp; Personally I can&#039;t fathom why they felt the need for different coinage of the same value on the go at the same time. Must have been a `bad timing&#039; thing (or something).</p><p><br /></p><p>All very confusing....but to add to that general confusion, James before ascending to the throne of England had issued Nobles and Ryals . Mary Queen of Scots did not issue any coin with the name of `Noble&#039; but there were three separate silver Ryal issues.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>1) Gold Lion Noble (78.5 grains) value of 75/- Scots.</p><p>2) Gold Thistle Noble (117.75 grains) value 146/8d Scots</p><p>3) Silver Ryal with an issue value of 30/- in 1567 (rising to 36/9d in 1578</p><p><br /></p><p>Just my bodle&#039;s worth ;-)</p><p><br /></p><p>Ian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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